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OpenStudy (henryarias14):

DERIVATIVES find the derivative of

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

\[\sin (\cos^{-1}x )\]

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

this is what i got so far

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

let u = cos^-1x

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

thus you have sin(u)

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

take the derivative of sin(u) which is cos(u)

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

\[- \frac{ \cos (\cos^{-1} x) }{ \sqrt{1-x^2} }\]

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

oh that's the original problem

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

the original problem is in the first comment. this one was my answer

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

ohh substitution

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

yes

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

dy/dx = dy/du*du/dx

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

you lost me

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

cos^-1 x = 1/cosx

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

1/cosx = sec x

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

so cos^-1x=1/cosx?

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

if i let u = arccosx then what would you do for du?

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

so

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

so du = 1/sqr(1-x^2) right?

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

alright then

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

thanks

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

my trig is a little shaky

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

sorry dude - you're right: https://math.berkeley.edu/~peyam/Math1ASu11/Handouts/Inverse%20Trig.pdf

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

hope that helps - i gotta review my trigonometry

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

yeah lol my trig is shaky too. alright, so what would du be?

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

sorry im trying to study for a final on thursday and this type of problems are driving me crazy

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

its ok - you're learning...and i'm learning too - lol!

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

wouldnt it be easier to solve this using the chain rule? derivative of sin(arccosx) * derivative of arccos x times derivastive of x which is one... ?

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

-1/(1-x^2)^1/2

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

thats what you got?

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

the is the derivative of the inverse cosine

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

by subtitution? the book says is right but x instead of 1 tho

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

yeah

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

http://www.math.brown.edu/utra/trigderivs.html

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

i know them

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

so du = -1/(1-x^2)^1/2

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

thats why i was saying u=arccosx and du=1/(1-x^2)^1/2

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

yeah

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

yes and yes - sorry for he confusion

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

its all good

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

use the chain rule

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

so cos(u) du? du doesnt fit into it tho, does it?

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

one sec

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

i meant sin(u) brb let me work it out

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

so i got sin(u). then chain rule to get cos(u) *1.. ?

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

ok so that is the right answer - the answer you gave the first time

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

the book says the denominator is supposed to be x tho thats why i was confused

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

this is what the book has: \[-\frac{ x }{ \sqrt{1-x^2} }\]

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

i just took a picture

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

i'm gonna post right now

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

there

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

oh i get it now. thanks!!!!!

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

:D

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

a detailed explanation via a photo

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

really helped thanks dude

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

yeah pictures are just better lol

OpenStudy (dynamiz77):

np - anytime...i learned something too in the process so thank you too!

OpenStudy (henryarias14):

cool cool

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