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lexxii:

Help?

lexxii:

Shadow:

Any thoughts to how you would approach this?

lexxii:

Well I thought it was \[A=\frac{ d^2 }{ 2 }\] but I don't think that is even close to right.

Shadow:

The area of an object is it's width (base) multiplied by it's height.

Shadow:

For squares it's just side multiplied by side (since all lengths for it's sides are the same value).

Shadow:

I'll give you a hint. Pythagoras

lexxii:

Pythagorean/Pythagoras theorem?Huh?

Shadow:

Pythagoras is the guy who found the theorem, lol

Shadow:

But yes, you would say Pythagorean Theorem.

Shadow:

Do you see how it could be applied here?

lexxii:

no?

Shadow:

The diagonal from the center of the square to the corner is how long?

lexxii:

6yd

Shadow:

How long is it from corner to corner?

lexxii:

12 yd

Shadow:

What shape does that diagonal create?

lexxii:

oh I see now... a triangle

Shadow:

You got it? (:

lexxii:

maybeeeeeeeeee

Shadow:

Well what are you thinking you should do next

lexxii:

Well you mentioned the pythagorean theorem so do you write it out that way????

Shadow:

Do you know how to use pythagorean's theorem?

lexxii:

\[a^2+b^2=c^2\]

lexxii:

then the 12 you be placed into c right?

Shadow:

Yes, c is the hypotenuse.

lexxii:

So then \[a^2+b^2=12^2\]?

Shadow:

Correct. a and b are the sides of the triangle. But since this is a square, what can we do with our formula?

lexxii:

I'm not sure, I've only done the pythagorean theorem with a single missing variable and never like this.

Shadow:

You have to think about this one.

Shadow:

About the sides of this 'triangle' that are actually sides of what shape?

lexxii:

The square?

Shadow:

Yes

Shadow:

And sides of a square are?

lexxii:

Not sure on that part?

Shadow:

They're equal.

lexxii:

Oh I thought you were asking what the length would be I was like ummm...

Shadow:

lol

lexxii:

That makes a 100% more sense LOL

Shadow:

Haha, so what do you think the next step is?

lexxii:

Not sure what you would do without having at least one of the variables

Shadow:

But if the sides are the same length, what can you dew?

lexxii:

not sure?

Shadow:

If two sticks are the same length, I can represent them with the same variable.

lexxii:

so instead of a and b you could just use say a?

Shadow:

Yes

lexxii:

okay

lexxii:

So what would I have to do next?

Shadow:

\[a^2 + a^2 = 12^2\]

Shadow:

What could you do on the left side

lexxii:

All I can think of is combine like variables but that doesnt sound right

Shadow:

what is a + a

lexxii:

a? I'm so confused??

Shadow:

a + a = 2a

lexxii:

so 2a then wouldnt you have to add the exponent?

lexxii:

or no?

Shadow:

yes

Shadow:

I was just illustrating the concept of adding variables.

lexxii:

oh okie

lexxii:

So would it just be \[2a^2\]? bc a^2 + a^2 is 2a^2

Shadow:

yes

lexxii:

So \[2a^2=12^2\] then what?

Shadow:

Solve for a, which is the side of a square.

lexxii:

So you get \[a^2=6^2\]?

Shadow:

PEMDAS Exponents > Multiplication

lexxii:

So I do what???

Shadow:

Don't divide by 2, do the exponent on 12 first

Shadow:

12^2 = ?

lexxii:

Sorry I was doing the math so it would be 144 then divide that by the 2 to get \[a^2=72\]?

lexxii:

Is that right?

Shadow:

yes

Shadow:

Keep going

lexxii:

So then plug it in as \[2*72=12^2\]????

Shadow:

what

Shadow:

I mean 2 times 72 is 12^2 but what are you trying to do

lexxii:

Idunno I'm lost

Shadow:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @lexxii Sorry I was doing the math so it would be 144 then divide that by the 2 to get \[a^2=72\]? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Shadow:

Lets go back to here. What do you do next?

lexxii:

Then wouldnt you plug that in? I'm confused.

Shadow:

We need to solve for a.

Shadow:

But a is not isolated. We have an exponent there. How do we get rid of it?

lexxii:

\[\sqrt{a}\]??

Shadow:

\[\sqrt (a^2) = a \] Correct

Shadow:

And what you do to one side, you?

lexxii:

Do to the other

lexxii:

So 8.48?

Shadow:

That seems to be what a is

Shadow:

Now what do you do (:

lexxii:

Plug it in now?

Shadow:

For the area of a square, yes

Shadow:

Technically we could have skipped this if we first discussed the area of a square which is side times side or....s^2 (:

Shadow:

You will know what I mean once you multiply the sqrt of 72 by the sqrt of 72, lol

lexxii:

It came back as 72?

Shadow:

yes

lexxii:

so??

Shadow:

Yep

lexxii:

Okay thank you so much! haha this wasn't exactly short.

lexxii:

So thanks for bearing with me :)

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