Why do you think it is unethical to treat mental personality disorders with force?

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ShadowKid3 · Answer

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Aniii · Answer

Many people think it is okay to treat mental personality disorders with force which others think it is unethical because it makes the patient feel trapped and other reasons.

ShadowKid3 · Answer

@aniii wrote:

Many people think it is okay to treat mental personality disorders with force which others think it is unethical because it makes the patient feel trapped and other reasons.

Like physical force? Physically assaulting someone in an attempt to “treat” or force them into obidience doesn’t really work, neither does verbally abusing them. Often force brings rebellion and would make their processes harder and goals less likely to be achieved, calmer approaches I believe are statistically more likely to bring about change within someone and cause less violent interactions between the doctor and the patient as it might lead to the patient retaliating with a more violent approach than the doctor who originally started it.

Aniii · Answer

@shadowkid3 wrote:

@aniii wrote:

Many people think it is okay to treat mental personality disorders with force which others think it is unethical because it makes the patient feel trapped and other reasons.

Like physical force? Physically assaulting someone in an attempt to “treat” or force them into obidience doesn’t really work, neither does verbally abusing them. Often force brings rebellion and would make their processes harder and goals less likely to be achieved, calmer approaches I believe are statistically more likely to bring about change within someone and cause less violent interactions between the doctor and the patient as it might lead to the patient retaliating with a more violent approach than the doctor who originally started it.

People make it work though by putting people in straight jackets or using isolation such as locking them in a room. What, just because they have schizophrenia or something similar? That is force.

Aniii · Answer

@shadowkid3 wrote:

@aniii wrote:

Many people think it is okay to treat mental personality disorders with force which others think it is unethical because it makes the patient feel trapped and other reasons.

Like physical force? Physically assaulting someone in an attempt to “treat” or force them into obidience doesn’t really work, neither does verbally abusing them. Often force brings rebellion and would make their processes harder and goals less likely to be achieved, calmer approaches I believe are statistically more likely to bring about change within someone and cause less violent interactions between the doctor and the patient as it might lead to the patient retaliating with a more violent approach than the doctor who originally started it.

I agree with your point of view though

Spectrum · Answer

@aniii wrote:

@shadowkid3 wrote:

@aniii wrote:

Many people think it is okay to treat mental personality disorders with force which others think it is unethical because it makes the patient feel trapped and other reasons.

Like physical force? Physically assaulting someone in an attempt to “treat” or force them into obidience doesn’t really work, neither does verbally abusing them. Often force brings rebellion and would make their processes harder and goals less likely to be achieved, calmer approaches I believe are statistically more likely to bring about change within someone and cause less violent interactions between the doctor and the patient as it might lead to the patient retaliating with a more violent approach than the doctor who originally started it.

People make it work though by putting people in straight jackets or using isolation such as locking them in a room. What, just because they have schizophrenia or something similar? That is force.

That's a different story. Also they don't do that to schizos. They only do that to like the crazy crazy people.

Aniii · Answer

People with mental personality disorders. It makes it worse. Example, if someone has PDD, forcing them to get treatment in a non scientific way, with them not willing, makes their disorder true. PDD is when someone thinks people are out to harm them, even with no reasoning to believe it. when people force them, its giving them that reason they need. Even historically people would need to go get locked up just because having a mental personality disorder is apparently a bad thing.

MAGABACK · Answer

like if someone has autism and they do something another person doesn't like, so that person tries to forcefully make them stop?

Aniii · Answer

@magaback wrote:

like if someone has autism and they do something another person doesn't like, so that person tries to forcefully make them stop?

autism isnt a mental personality disorder

MAGABACK · Answer

@aniii wrote:

@magaback wrote:

like if someone has autism and they do something another person doesn't like, so that person tries to forcefully make them stop?

autism isnt a mental personality disorder

I beg to differ. my brother has it and he is a trainwreak

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

autism is a lot of things...

Aniii · Answer

it doesnt make it a personality disorder. It is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by challenges with social communication and interaction, and repetitive or restricted interests and behaviors.

@magaback wrote:

@aniii wrote:

@magaback wrote:

like if someone has autism and they do something another person doesn't like, so that person tries to forcefully make them stop?

autism isnt a mental personality disorder

I beg to differ. my brother has it and he is a trainwreak

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

precisely

Aniii · Answer

personality disorders include:

MAGABACK · Answer

@aniii wrote:

it doesnt make it a personality disorder. It is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by challenges with social communication and interaction, and repetitive or restricted interests and behaviors.

@magaback wrote:

@aniii wrote:

@magaback wrote:

like if someone has autism and they do something another person doesn't like, so that person tries to forcefully make them stop?

autism isnt a mental personality disorder

I beg to differ. my brother has it and he is a trainwreak

it is a personality disorder. He doesn't get it if people he talks to are older/younger than him, acts crazy, does things people don't like, so Im pretty sure I know wut im talking about

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

wait Is OCPD like OCD? or is it different?

Aniii · Answer

my brother also has autism. Its not a personality disorder, its another type of disorder

Aniii · Answer

@knoxxyboy wrote:

wait Is OCPD like OCD? or is it different?

similar but different.

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

my brother has autism as well lol

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

@aniii wrote:

@knoxxyboy wrote:

wait Is OCPD like OCD? or is it different?

similar but different.

k thanks

Aniii · Answer

ft. google. No, autism is not considered a mental personality disorder. It is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by challenges with social communication and interaction, and repetitive or restricted interests and behaviors. While there can be overlap between autism and some personality disorders, they are distinct conditions with different diagnostic criteria and underlying causes

Aniii · Answer

google isnt always correct, i agree, but a doctor knows better than teenagers

MAGABACK · Answer

@aniii wrote:

ft. google. No, autism is not considered a mental personality disorder. It is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by challenges with social communication and interaction, and repetitive or restricted interests and behaviors. While there can be overlap between autism and some personality disorders, they are distinct conditions with different diagnostic criteria and underlying causes

ok that makes sense. the way u made it sound that social communication went with personality disorder

Aniii · Answer

@magaback wrote:

@aniii wrote:

ft. google. No, autism is not considered a mental personality disorder. It is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by challenges with social communication and interaction, and repetitive or restricted interests and behaviors. While there can be overlap between autism and some personality disorders, they are distinct conditions with different diagnostic criteria and underlying causes

ok that makes sense. the way u made it sound that social communication went with personality disorder

i copied the exact thing google said-

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

yeh I was gonna do that but you did it first....

Aniii · Answer

@knoxxyboy wrote:

yeh I was gonna do that but you did it first....

lol mb

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

nah its chill

Aniii · Answer

closed question lol

KnoxxyBoy · Answer

yerp

ShadowKid3 · Answer

@aniii wrote:

@shadowkid3 wrote:

@aniii wrote:

Many people think it is okay to treat mental personality disorders with force which others think it is unethical because it makes the patient feel trapped and other reasons.

Like physical force? Physically assaulting someone in an attempt to “treat” or force them into obidience doesn’t really work, neither does verbally abusing them. Often force brings rebellion and would make their processes harder and goals less likely to be achieved, calmer approaches I believe are statistically more likely to bring about change within someone and cause less violent interactions between the doctor and the patient as it might lead to the patient retaliating with a more violent approach than the doctor who originally started it.

People make it work though by putting people in straight jackets or using isolation such as locking them in a room. What, just because they have schizophrenia or something similar? That is force.

Straight jackets and isolation are more so used against patients that are a danger to themself or others, it’s a safety measure to restrain them so they don’t harm someone or themself.

scarlettmiris · Answer

@aniii wrote:

personality disorders include:

Are you referring to other personality disorders like bpd, or just a generalization.

Aniii · Answer

@scarlettmiris wrote:

@aniii wrote:

personality disorders include:

Are you referring to other personality disorders like bpd, or just a generalization.

those personality disorders on that list and any other personality disorder

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