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OpenStudy (anonymous):

does this sequence converge or diverge? (n!)/(n^n) and the reason

OpenStudy (sandra):

this converges to zero since eventually n! expands into n*....n-(n-1) [i.e. 1], while the last multiple of n^n is still n. i.e. once n is big enough the last divisor is obviously bigger enough to bring the number to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey sandra you dont have a better reason?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont buy this argument

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how about consider x! / x^x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for your father

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what you wrote isnt obvious , sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can make x! continuous using gamma function

OpenStudy (sandra):

hmmm, not sure about that =) can you explain?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well you didnt show it converges

OpenStudy (sandra):

yeah I know, I gave the best reasoning I could heh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hehe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Did you guys try the ratio test?

OpenStudy (sandra):

i for one did not :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ratio test is for series, this is a sequence

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or maybe im wrong, i havent see ratio test for sequences

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how about a sandwich theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n*n >= n * n-1 n*n*n > = n * n-1 n - 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so by induction we have

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n * n-1 * n-2 / n*n*n < = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

err

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is strictly less than 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n* n > (n-1)(n-2) for n >= 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so divide out the first n

OpenStudy (sandra):

ok, spolier alert... this is a bit beyond my current understanding, but I think the by induction track sounded good... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=195508

OpenStudy (sandra):

the root solution is way over my head

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sandra i made you a hero

OpenStudy (sandra):

omg lol! yay =)

OpenStudy (sandra):

I'm already your fan, so not much I can do :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do you give points to people?

OpenStudy (sandra):

you "become their fan"

OpenStudy (sandra):

I think they should add per answer type ratings

OpenStudy (sandra):

at least in addition

OpenStudy (sandra):

something like "best answer", or "thanks" or something. one more thing to collect :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't find "become their fan"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is a tough question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

see , the series 1/n diverges, but the sequence 1/n converges to zero when you take the limit

OpenStudy (sandra):

hmmm jkwon, should be right by the person's name , e.g. right above my reply HERE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x + x = 2xx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we know n! > n-1 * n-2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think we can use the fact that its less than 1 and decreasing

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