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OpenStudy (anonymous):

needing help on implicit differentiations?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Really!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can i write the equation down and you show me step by step how to do it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay this is the instructions...Use implicit differentiation to find the value of dy/dx at the indicated point. e^y+2y=3x-5 ; at the point (2,0)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(dy/dx)e^y + 2dy/dx = 3 dy/dx(e^y + 2) = 3 (dy/dx)= 3/(e^y + 2) plug in the value of x an y in the equation but there isn't a y varible ( dy/dx)= 3/(e^0 + 2) ( dy/dx)= 3/3 = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

remember dy/dx e^(f(x)) = f'(x)e^(f(x))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so on the first line why are you taking out the Y in 2y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh are you taking y'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

implicate differentiate is all about in term of a variable and the variable in this problem is x. So differentiate the polynomials and if DOESNT have x in the polynomial then add dy/dx to the polynomial

OpenStudy (anonymous):

implicit*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for example d/dx 3 y^3 = 9 y ^2 dy/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay. can you help me on another one? i am trying to correct a test and want to make sure i understand this before i attempt the next homework

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

awesome here it is. Again thank you so much. I am in college and math is not my thing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

awesome here it is. Again thank you so much. I am in college and math is not my thing. xy-2x=y ^{2} - 4 ; at the point (5,3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xy-2x=y ^{2} - 4 ; at the point (5,3) xdy/dx + y - 2 = 2ydy/dx /// remember the multiplication rule dy/dx(2y - x)= y-2 dy/dx= (y-2)/((2y - x)) plug in values (3-1)/(6-5)= 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3-1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

was that a typeo shouldnt it be 3-2/6-5=1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or am i thinking wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops yep 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh good i was hoping i was starting to understand. could you help me correct the rest of my test?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(3-2)/(6-5)=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay the next one i only got one point off but i am not really sure why here is the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a women standing on a cliff is watching a motorboat through a telescope as the boat travels away from the base of the cliff. The telescope is 250 feet above the water level and the boat is traveling at a speed of 20 feet per second. How fast is the distance between the woman and the boat increasing at the moment when the boat is 600 feet from away?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is what i did x^2 + 250^2 = z^2 2x + 0 = 2z 2x dx/dt = 2z dx/dt 600dx/dt=650(+20) dx/dt = 21.7 ft/s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The boat and the women are in a triangle formation. So \[x^2 +y^2 = z^2\] implicit differentiate in terms of time. so \[(x) dx/dt + (y) dy/dt = (z) dz/dt\] where x= the distance the boat is and dx/dt the rate of the boat moving away. because the women is sationary the women's dy/dt is 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

she circled the +20 and put an arrow to the dx/dt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So (x)dx/dt=(z)dz/dt 600* 20 = z dz/dt we are trying to find dz/dt but we don't have z x^2+y^2=z^2 600^2 + 250^2 = z^2 z=650

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay i am with you now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

600* 20 = 650 dz/dt dz/dt = 18.46

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry the computer is slow today

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it is okay i am just so greatful for the help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow 20 is the answer.... what did the teacher want an extimate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idk maybe she only counted one off because i worked it mostly right just got the ending off

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay ready for the next one? just to warn you i have like 11 left i need help on, but they get easier i think..lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so i had this idea so i dont have to type out all this and stuff i would just attach a file

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that would be better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am working on it give me a minute or so

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is the next page

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here is page 2

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here is the last page

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did they come in?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol I need to download the new adobe sofeware

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ha ha ha could you please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no can't see them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay try this one

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NO cant read it don't know why

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you check the ones i just put up their in word

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what microsoft word do you have?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because i can save it in a different format

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it worked

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay awesome here come the rest

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the order is 10,20,30

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay could we just go step by step and explain what i did wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or is that too much?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

number 17: 2x^3+ 3x^2 = 2 = f(x) 12x^2 + 6x = f'(x) = 0 at x =-1/2 and x= 0 24x+ 6 = f''(x) = 0 at -1/4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

awesome could we start at number 12 though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

increasing [-∞. -1/2][0, ∞] decreasing [-1/4,-1/2] local/absolute maximum when f'(x) = 0 and f''(x) < 0 at x=-1/2 local/absolute minimum when f'(x) = 0 and f''(x) > 0 at x=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that for 17?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find the intervals of decreasing and increasing take the derivative and set it to zero. the number plug it in the ORIGINAL f(x) and if the number is negative the between the local max or min it is decreasing and whent he number is positive between the local max or min it is increasing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay tht makes since

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to find the local max and min.... find f''(x) and plug in the f'(x) number and if it is negative (positive) it is a local maximum(minimum). of the local max and min plug them in the original f(x) AND which ever the local max or min is the most positive or negative is the absolute max or min respectively.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find the point of inflection.. f''(x) to zero and solve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

going to bed I will help tomorrow if you need it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay how can i get a hold of you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i will post more ....you just log on. when do you need to hand it in?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by next monday but i have 5 more sections of homework i need to do also for the next sections

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could i get help with those if needed? i can work on them tomorrow and then ask for help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

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