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OpenStudy (anonymous):

when do you use the inverse when doing logs?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

log is the inverse of exponents; and exponents are the inverse of logs. What is your question regarding?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont understand how to do them at all. how would you graph y=3log(base5)x. how would you go about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey amistre can you please help me with 2 antiderivative questions after you are done here?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Since y = 3 log5(x) is the same as: y = log5(x^3) we can more easily graph its inverse and then "flip" the graph about the y=x line.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sure thing...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you got a question posted we can go to :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you get the second equation from switching the x and ys and solving for y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you see my question

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, but I messed it up in my head the first time :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

meet me there when you can help me

OpenStudy (amistre64):

will do...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

mini: log graphs can be hard to do without a calulator; so we can rewrite it to a more familiar form... do you agree?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but how do you make it in the other form?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im there

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y = 3 log5(x) ; divide by 3 y/3 = log5(x) ; take the 5^ of each side 5^(y/3) = 5^(log5(x)) ; 5^(log5) cancel each other out. 5^(y/3) = x Do you agree? Are you familiar with the rules for logs?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i understand how you did that. when is that that you go about switching the x and y to solve?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

When it makes the graphing easier you can modify it. All you are doing is solving for x instead of y, so keep aware of that

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Would you agree that 5^(y/3) is easier to plot for and solve than log5(x) ? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you do for example logbase8 4096=4

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Do you mean: log8(4096) = 4 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it just 8^4=4096

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that is what is known as an identity. one side equals the other. Lets take for example: logB(x) = y this means that B^y=x We can take your equation for instance: log8(4096) = 4 means: 8^4 = 4096, we can test that by either pen and paper , or calculator :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

35^log 35^x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

35^log35 = 1 and we are left with "x"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you do the inverse of y=log1/4 x out step by step please?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=ln 6x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

is that log base (1/4)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i understand that one now but how do you do the second one?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y = ln(6x) correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just y= ln 6x not base 6x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

"ln" is just a special way they write log to the base "e"

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y = ln(6x) e^y = e^ln(6x) e^y = 6x (e^y)/6 = x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how about y= ln (x+2)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

e^y = x+2 e^y -2 = x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for the graph of y=log8 x-2 you would do 8^y=x-2 and then fill in values for y such as 0 which would be 1=x-2 x=3?

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