can anyone answer this? find the center of this ellipse: 0=4x²+9y²−8x−18y−23 separate the values with commas.
x^2/a^2 + y^2/b^2 = 1 This is long so I will do it in parts
Rearrange the terms and take the -23 to the other side so we can complete the square
23 = 4x^2 - 8x + 9y^2 - 18y
Factor out the 4 and the 9 23 = 4(x^2 - 2x ) + 9(y^2 - 2y )
Complete the square 23 = 4(x^2 - 2x + 1) + 9(y^2 - 2y + 1)
You actually added 4 and 9 to the right side because if you distribute this out you get 4(1) = 4 and 9(1) = 9 brb
OK... since you added 13 to the right side in order to complete the square, you need to add 13 to the left side 36 = 4(x^2 - 2x + 1) + 9(y^2 -2y + 1)
Now write the right side as ( )^2 36 = 4(x - 1)^2 + 9(y-1)^2
Because the formula is supposed to equal 1 you need to divide by 36 1 = 4(x - 1)^2/36 + 9(y - 1)^2/36
Cancel the 4 into the 36 and the 9 into the 36 1 = (x - 1)^2/9 + (y - 1)^2/9
Write the denominators as ( ) ^2 1 = (x - 1)^2/3^2 + (y - 1)^2/3^2 The center is (1,1)
on the center, do you change the signs?
Yes, that is how you find it.
Now, could you explain how to find the major axis vertices for this ellipse
Just a second
thanks!
In this case you actually have a circle because the denominators are the same. Here is a good website for you to see. http://www.mathwarehouse.com/ellipse/equation-of-ellipse.php You use the ( )^2 on the bottom they are both 3^2 So you take the (3)^2 that is under the (x-1)^2 and you move 3 units to the right and to the left of the center. You the take the (3)^2 that is under the (y-1)^2 and you move 3 units up and down from the center.
If you had a 5^2 on the bottom of the x^2 term and a 3^2 on the bottom of the y^2 term you would have major axis vertices - you would move 5 units right and left from the center and minor axis vertices 3 units up and down from the center. Sorry. In you problem Vertices at (4,1), (-2,1) and (1,4), (1,-2)
for the answer, it asks for the answer to be written (x1,y1)(x2,y2)
OOPS I made a mistake. Go back and look when I had a 9 by the (y-1)^2 The 9 goes into the 36 4 times so the bottom of that one should be (2)^2 So since the (x - 1)^2 has a 3^2 under it and the (y - 1)^2 has a (2)^2 under it your x axis is your major axis
Equation is 1 = (x - 1)^2/3^2 + (y - 1)^2/2^2 Center (1,1) Major axis vertices are (1 + 3,1) and (1-3,1) you move 3 units right and left from the center (4,1) (-2,1)
using the same question. minor axis in the same answer form of (x1,y1)(x2,y2)
Minor would be the 2 units up and 2 units down from the center (1, 1 + 2), (1, 1 - 2) (1,3), (1,-1)
next is the foci
with the same answer form as the axis
Just a minute
OK you use the two numbers in the denominators, in this case the 3 and the 2 c^2 = a^2 + b^2 the denominators are the a and the b c^2 = 3^2 + 2^2 c^2 = 9 + 4 c^2 = 13 c = sqrt(13) So you move the sqrt(13) units from the center towards the major axis vertices. So since the major axis is the x axis (1 + sqrt13, 1), (1 - sqrt13, 1)
so the foci is (1 + sqrt13, 1), (1 - sqrt13, 1)
Yes
so it would be (4.61,1)(2.61,1)
(-2.61,1) and (4.61,1) you missed the negative sign
so just to make sure i understand this. can we both do the next few problems to make sure we get the same answer.
Sure
find the center of this hyperbola: \[x ^{2}-y ^{2}-18x+10y+57=0\] separate the values with commas.
This is interesting.. this is a hyperbola x^2/a^2 - y^2/b^2 = 1 It can be y^2/b^2 - x^2/a^2 = 1 You put the positive one first... In this problem the x^2 is positive
What do you get after you complete the square? Be VERY careful on the y^2 one.
i'm kinda lost
x^2 - 18x - y^2 + 10y = -57 (x^2 - 18x ) - (y^2 - 10y ) = -57 do you understand this... I had to change the sign on the 10y term because there is a "-" between these squared terms and if you distributed the - sign back you need to get back to -y^2 + 10y This is the hard step
(x^2 - 18x + 81) - (y^2 - 10y + 25) = -57 + 81 - 25 The reason it is -25 is because if you distributed it back out you actually added a "-25" to the left side.
i think why it's a little more difficult is because of the extra steps. it's confusing.
It is because of the "-" sign in the middle that makes it tricky.
(x - 9)^2 - (y - 5)^2 = -1 Are we ok to this point.
yeah
OK, the formula says it has to = 1 so we need to multiply every term by (-1) so it will = 1 -(x - 9)^2 + (y - 5)^2 = 1 Then the first term has to be positive with a minus between the two terms. so (y - 5)^2 - (x - 9)^2 = 1 OK
so far so good
Center would (9,5) it is always (x,y)
do you change the signs? or is that already done?
It was (x - 9) so I changed it to 9 It was (x - 5) so I changed it to 5
next is to find the vertices for the hyperbola & the answer in this (x1,y1),(x2,y2) form
Because the (Y-5)^2 is the positive term, the vertices are up and down from the center. There is an implied (1)^2 under both the (Y-5)^2 and the (x - 9)^2 so you move 1 unit up and 1 unit down from the center. (0,0+1), (0,0-1) (0,1), (0,-1)
well i actually was doing a test. which i have been working on for almost a month because i only can miss 2 questions. which i already missed 3.
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