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22xdy+11ydx+3ydy=0
Loki! haha I'm back with more questions. :)
Hehe, I see...
Are you studying exact differential equations?
I don't think so. I know what the answer is and its not a number. Its the formula of the constant
Can you wait a little bit - I'm just finishing another post.
Sure
22xdy+11ydx+ydy=0 is the actual problem, Sorry
ok
i need paper
haha alright
oh, i don't have her question.
Scotty, this looks worse than it is (sorry, I have someone else I'm helping here too).
I'm hoping so. I think it fits into the trick of d(xy)=dy+ydx am I correct?
Hang on...I misread it...I have to work something out. Sorry, I'll just finish with this other person and I won't be distracted.
Ok so the problem is 22xdy+11ydx+3ydy=0
I wish that 22 wasn't there. You sure it's not 11?
Positive :/
I know what the answer if, if that helps.
yeah punch it in
Its \[11xy^2+y^3=C\]
Sorry, I keep being called away.
It's alright..
I'm thinking a substitution method. Just one sec...again called away...sorry. Won't be forever.
I think I may have your method...just let me check properly.
Ok cool
I keep being called away! I'll just let you know what I'm thinking and you can play with it as well. Your equation, when rearranged, looks like this\[y'=-\frac{11y}{22x+y}=-\frac{11(\frac{y}{x})}{22+(\frac{y}{x})}\]after dividing the numerator and denominator by x.
This is in the form for a type of differential equation that can be solved when we know that y' is some function of y/x; that is,\[y'=F(\frac{y}{x})\]
We make the identification,\[v(x)=\frac{y}{x}\]so that\[y=xv\]
and we take it from there. Is this familiar?
Ok let me try to pmess with it
Ok instead of that one... can you help me solve y'-9y=8e^x
I'm doing this one for a timed quiz
I figured out your other problem - I made an arithmetic error, but the method is correct.
Yeah I'll do the second.
Ok I think I saw where you were going with it and I gutted my way through it. Thanks
Okay, integrating factor one - do you know?
Not sure what that means..
\[y'-9y=8e^x \rightarrow \frac{d (\mu y)}{dx}=\mu 8e^x\]
\[\mu = e^{\int\limits_{}{}-9dx}=e^{-9x}\]
so
im sorry that should be y"
\[e^{-9x}y=e^{-9x}.8e^x+c \rightarrow y=ce^{9x}-e^x\]
y''-9y=8e^x ?
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I miss typed.
right do you just want the answer for the quiz and then the method
Well. I want to learn but first and foremost I really need to pass this quiz
I am writing it all down to try to understand though.
\[y=c_1e^{3x}+c_2e^{-3x}-e^{x}\]
I'll explain...
Are you sure the + isn't a - between the first 2 terms?
You have a second order differential equation which is linear, inhomogeneous (because the RHS is a function of x only) with constant coefficients. You need to solve inhom. equations by 1) solving the equivalent homogeneous equation first 2) finding a particular solution
+
In the end, it doesn't matter because it's absorbed into the constant.
The only option I have with a + sign in it is... -2e^3x+e^-3x-e^x
Ok so e^3x=e^-3x-e^x is the same thing?
Oh, do you have initial conditions?
Sorry when x=0
Your equation has it's constants solve for
Oh...you need to give me the whole question ;)
Wait.... y=0 and y'=8 and x=0... I'm sorry I've been up all day doing this
It's second order, so there should be 2 conds.
ok
c_1 = 2 and c_2 = -1
\[y=2e^3x-e^{-3x}-e^x\]
Yep that works!
Good
Thanks so much... I really feel low just asking for answers but I plan on taking the class again. If I fail I have to pay the whole tuition and I've been studying so hard and just not getting it lately :(
It's because you're having to do it on your own - you're not being shown the ropes. Don't punish yourself.
trying not to. Could you help me with 1 or 2 more? Then I'll leave you alone.
yes
How long do you have to do the quiz?
i panic in tests - you shouldn't have told me, lol
4xydx=(x^2+4)dy and that is the whole problem and not leaving anything out :)
It's separable.
\[4xydx=(x^2+4)dy \rightarrow \frac{4xy}{x^2+4}=\frac{dy}{dx} \rightarrow \frac{4x}{x^2+4}dx=\frac{dy}{y}\]
You can integrate from there.
Ok let me try
\[y=c(x^2+4)^2\]
yep thats what I got
Aesome
or, awesome
Ok I think this should be the last one... I think I got the others actually.
ok
dy+2ydx=e^(-4x)dx
It's an integrating factor one again.
Yeah those are really difficult for me. Seperatable ones are the ones I'm more comfortable with...
\[y=-\frac{1}{2}e^{-4x}+ce^{-2x}\]
I'm just skipping to the solution because of the test...
The closest answer I have that looks like that is e^(4x)+Ce^(2x)
hmmm...that's the solution to the equation you gave me...
let me write it in the formula so it looks better maybe it looks funny on text
\[dy+2ydx=e^{-4x}dx \rightarrow y'+2y=e^{-4x}\]?
\[dy-2ydx=6e^(5x) dx\]
that dan 5x is super script
so you gave me the wrong question before?
Im a failure sorry I'm rushing
\[y(x) = c_1 e^{2 x}+2 e^{5 x}\]
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