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OpenStudy (anonymous):

3x^2 +8x + 5 factoring trinomials PLEASE HELP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright, let's factor : \[(3x + 5)(x + 1) = 0\] use the FOIL method to check your answer ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you figure them out so easy

OpenStudy (amistre64):

skill and class :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly lol ^_^ , practice makes perfect :) Believe me, I was so bad at these lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

class hasnt helped me lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

class won't help, it just introduces the concept, only you can help yourself :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it helps when 3 and 5 make 8 right in front of you tho, but it takes practice to notice it ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i use the first and last numbers, and the signs of the middle and last numbers to figure alot of it out....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have the test tomarrow so we'l see

OpenStudy (amistre64):

there are some underlying concepts to be aware of that help.... like how the equation is constructed to begine with and that way you can more easily tear it apart

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so on this next one- 5w^2 + 13w - 6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you're going to do great ^_^

OpenStudy (amistre64):

5(6) = 30... the last signis negative so the signs are different and its subtraction.... the middle number is positive so the largest factor is the positive...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(w+/5)(w-/5) is my setup...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1,30; 2,15, 3,5 15-3=13 use it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(w+15/5)(w-2/5) simplify and shift

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(w+3)(5w-2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so what the first and last multipy out to the middle needs to add up to that number

OpenStudy (amistre64):

want me to go slower :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes please

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the first number is used to "calibrate" the rest. does that make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok... the last number is used with the first number to find a "pool" of options for our middle number... does that make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea

OpenStudy (amistre64):

5(6) = 30...what are our options...all of them...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the factors of 30

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, what are they so we can see them :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

start with the obvious..1,30; and move on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

15*2 6*5 30* 1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thats good, lets keep those available while we "setup" our answer

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the last number is gotten by multiplication right? so the sign of that number tells us alot of what we need to use

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if the sign is (-) what are our options?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

15-2 ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well get to that... but for now, focus on the sign only and not the value of the number... our set up is this: ( w ) (w ) we need some signs....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one of each

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plus and minus

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good job.... now look at the middle number and that tells you which number is bigger... does that make sense?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

whats the middle sign? + or -?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that middle number is +13 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then we want our "bigger" numbe that we use to be (+) (w + B )(w - L ) got it?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now which factor do we see that will subtract to get 13?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

15 2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good (w +15 )(w -2 ) couple more loose ends to wrap up we used that "5" from the front to begin with and so we need to divide it out in this step like this: (w +15/5 )(w -2/5 ) makes sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

simplify those fractions and if they still look like a fraction... move the bottom in front of its x partner like this: (w +3 )(w -2/5 ) cant reduce anymore so move the denoms if there is any: (w +3 )(5w -2) and were done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much our teacher goes to fast

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets do another one so I can see you do it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok....2x^2-2x-40

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if it cant be done like this...use the quadratic formula :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

first step is what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find the factors of 40?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

close, first time last for a pool

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2(40)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

use that first now so we can divide it later... whats our pool?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ya...let me write this down

OpenStudy (amistre64):

no writing...must do it the hard way :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok...80

OpenStudy (amistre64):

write it down.... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what are our "factors" of 80 to choose from?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2*40 8*10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

80 *1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1,80; 2,40; 4, 10; 8, 5

OpenStudy (amistre64):

8 and 10 lol forgot how to multiply

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1,80; 2,40; 4,20; 8,10; 16; 5 thats better

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets start setup.... 2x^2-2x-40 (x )(x ) we need signs...what are they?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok...both -

OpenStudy (amistre64):

both (-) meaning? that (-)(-)=(-)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one of each

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the last number sign tells us we need to multiply some signs to get it....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good, and the middle tells us which is begger right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or bigger depending on your accent :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(x- B )(x+L ) we good so far? you writin this down?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2x^2-2x-40 what numbers from our pool will give us 2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10 8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

+10 -8

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good. lets fill them in (x-10 )(x+8 ) now divide out the first number that "2" we used (x-10/2)(x+8/2) now what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x-5)(x+4)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thats right.... but let me check our work a second....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

one little after thought that usually doesnt come up is this..... we could have factored out a "2" to begin with.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as the gcf

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep.... so we actually need to put it back in like this: 2(x-5)(x+4) to make everything right again :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now this will work back into the original :) you tried to trick me didnt you :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks..you helped alot

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre welcome.... hope you do good :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

il get on toarrow night and let you know if your here my class is at 8am

OpenStudy (amistre64):

8am eh... is that florida time?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nm

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ahh.... your 2 or 3 hours behind me then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya its 11

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) library is closing here at my college.... so have fun :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok im off to bed thanks again

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