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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Reimann Sum Continues.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ahhh, much better lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i wrote down sum (-2+3i/n)(3/n)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good, im reviewing some notes to bring me up to speed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k can you also explain to me the point of what we are doing

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the original equation: x^3 -3x can be split into easier parts x^3 and -3x we use the reimann sum formulas for (sum)x^3 and (sum)x to work these to completion

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-3 lim(sum) x (3/n) is the easiest one to do, so lets start with that one :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we determined that f(x_i) = (-2+3i)/n right? so if the notes are correct, and I dont see any reason to dispute them, we multiply: (-2+3i)/n with 3/n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-2+3i/n)(3/n)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(sum) (-6/n^2 + 9i/n^2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so -6/n+9i/n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

9i/n^2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your right... I got lost there for a sec :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it says to split this one up into: (sum) -6/n+ (sum)9i/n^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

adding rule?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, I am suuming the adding rule :) it gets us to the (sum) i formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k i split is up as you said

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(9/n^2) (sum)i is... 9 n(n+1) ---- ------ n^2 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do we substitute that?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

9n(n+1) 9(n+1) ------- = ------ 2n^2 2n now work the other part: -6/n -> 1/n (sum) -6 = (1/n)(-6n) = -6 why? dunno, its just the example I got to go by :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we are at (-6+(9(n+1))/2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

9(n+1) ------ - 6 2n^2 -6n^2 9n 9 ----- + ---- + --- n^2 n^2 n^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh you just lost me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you just distributed?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lost myself too, let me redo that last part :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

9n+9 ------ - 6 2n -12n 9n 9 ----- + ---- + --- 2n 2n 2n might be better

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-3 9 --- + --- = -3 as n-> inf 2 2n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold up what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lim as n goes to infinity sum =-3?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-3/2 ..... might be a better answer for the right side of our original equation....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

I forgot the denominator of 2 :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh because 9/2n goes to 0?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, when a fraction gets bigg on the bottom what happens? 1 --------------------- becomes infinitly small 100000000000000000 it approaches zero

OpenStudy (amistre64):

.0000000000.....00000000000000001

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i know, sorry stupid question

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now if our f(a + i/x\) stuff was correct, then this is our right side part

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we are halfway done. Should we take the cube now

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ummm...... we need to drag that -3 back over and multiply it I think :) -9/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cool 9/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not negative

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-3(-3/2) = 9/2 that s right.... tell me im wrong :) i dont mind

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since its just: (sum) x^3 we can take our f^(x_1) and work it thru

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so (-2+3i/n)^3?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, and I am assuming that that is correct :) otherwise we are getting good practice, but the wrong results :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at least we have the answer so we will know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its 3/4 if you forgot

OpenStudy (amistre64):

whaaa!!????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the entire answer is 3/4

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah yeah...maybe..well see :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

want me to distribute the cube?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, cube it out so we can multiply our 3/n to it and apply the (sum) i^3 formula to it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k give me a second

OpenStudy (amistre64):

gonna swig some coffee..... bad mormon....BAD!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k here it is non simplified: ( -8+12i/n+12i/n-18i^2/n^2+12i/n-18i^2/n^2-18i^2/n^2+27i^3/n^3)(3/n)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

simplified loll (-8+36i/n-54i^2/n^2+27i^3/n^3)(3/n)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

distributing the 3/n : (-24/n+108i/n^2-162i^2/n^3+81i^3/n^4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

made me do all the dirty work ahhaah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thats what I get too :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sweet

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now lets divvy put the "i" factors

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now we take each summation?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yupp

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what does -24/n become

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i just pull it out?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sum_-24/n +108/n^2 sum_i -162/n^3sum_i^2 +81/n^4 sum_i^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats what i got

OpenStudy (amistre64):

muplitiply each one by the appropriate sum i^x formulas :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have to go soon, are we almost done?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

not even close :) I can do it quicker on the paper probably.... how long you got?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5 minutes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you attach the image after?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

aint gonna happen in 5 minutes :) I can work it out and post it here if youd like, might even figure out where I go wrong and learn something :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sounds good, that would be great. Sorry that i have to go.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

'sok, have fun....:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for that first one i got (108n^2+108)/2n^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ill come back later to see if you posted and if you are still online, i may ask you questions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

take care, you are a Hero for sure! haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey Im back, are you there? Its kinda late but did you finish?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Here it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wow amazing! You broke everything down

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You really helped me. I can't thank you enough

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