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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Reimann Sum Continues.
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
ahhh, much better lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i wrote down sum (-2+3i/n)(3/n)
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
good, im reviewing some notes to bring me up to speed
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
k can you also explain to me the point of what we are doing
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
the original equation:
x^3 -3x can be split into easier parts
x^3 and -3x
we use the reimann sum formulas for (sum)x^3 and (sum)x to work these to completion
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
-3 lim(sum) x (3/n) is the easiest one to do, so lets start with that one :)
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
we determined that f(x_i) = (-2+3i)/n right? so if the notes are correct, and I dont see any reason to dispute them, we multiply:
(-2+3i)/n with 3/n
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
(-2+3i/n)(3/n)
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
(sum) (-6/n^2 + 9i/n^2)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so -6/n+9i/n
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
9i/n^2
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
your right... I got lost there for a sec :)
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
it says to split this one up into:
(sum) -6/n+ (sum)9i/n^2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
why?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
adding rule?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
yeah, I am suuming the adding rule :) it gets us to the (sum) i formula
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
k i split is up as you said
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
(9/n^2) (sum)i is...
9 n(n+1)
---- ------
n^2 2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
do we substitute that?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
9n(n+1) 9(n+1)
------- = ------
2n^2 2n
now work the other part:
-6/n -> 1/n (sum) -6 = (1/n)(-6n) = -6 why? dunno, its just the example I got to go by :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
k haha
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so we are at (-6+(9(n+1))/2
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
9(n+1)
------ - 6
2n^2
-6n^2 9n 9
----- + ---- + ---
n^2 n^2 n^2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh you just lost me
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
you just distributed?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
lost myself too, let me redo that last part :)
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
9n+9
------ - 6
2n
-12n 9n 9
----- + ---- + ---
2n 2n 2n
might be better
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
-3 9
--- + --- = -3 as n-> inf
2 2n
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yup
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
hold up what?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
lim as n goes to infinity sum =-3?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
-3/2 ..... might be a better answer for the right side of our original equation....
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
I forgot the denominator of 2 :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh because 9/2n goes to 0?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
yep, when a fraction gets bigg on the bottom what happens?
1
--------------------- becomes infinitly small
100000000000000000 it approaches zero
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
.0000000000.....00000000000000001
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yea i know, sorry stupid question
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
now if our f(a + i/x\) stuff was correct, then this is our right side part
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
we are halfway done. Should we take the cube now
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
ummm...... we need to drag that -3 back over and multiply it I think :)
-9/2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
cool 9/2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
not negative
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
-3(-3/2) = 9/2 that s right.... tell me im wrong :) i dont mind
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
since its just: (sum) x^3 we can take our f^(x_1) and work it thru
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so (-2+3i/n)^3?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
yep, and I am assuming that that is correct :)
otherwise we are getting good practice, but the wrong results :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
at least we have the answer so we will know
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
its 3/4 if you forgot
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
whaaa!!????
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
the entire answer is 3/4
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
yeah yeah...maybe..well see :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
want me to distribute the cube?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
yep, cube it out so we can multiply our 3/n to it and apply the (sum) i^3 formula to it
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
k give me a second
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
gonna swig some coffee..... bad mormon....BAD!!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
k here it is non simplified: ( -8+12i/n+12i/n-18i^2/n^2+12i/n-18i^2/n^2-18i^2/n^2+27i^3/n^3)(3/n)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
simplified loll (-8+36i/n-54i^2/n^2+27i^3/n^3)(3/n)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
distributing the 3/n : (-24/n+108i/n^2-162i^2/n^3+81i^3/n^4)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
made me do all the dirty work ahhaah
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
thats what I get too :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sweet
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
now lets divvy put the "i" factors
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
now we take each summation?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
yupp
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
what does -24/n become
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
do i just pull it out?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
sum_-24/n
+108/n^2 sum_i
-162/n^3sum_i^2
+81/n^4 sum_i^3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats what i got
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
muplitiply each one by the appropriate sum i^x formulas :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i have to go soon, are we almost done?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
not even close :) I can do it quicker on the paper probably....
how long you got?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
5 minutes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
can you attach the image after?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
aint gonna happen in 5 minutes :) I can work it out and post it here if youd like, might even figure out where I go wrong and learn something :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sounds good, that would be great. Sorry that i have to go.
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
'sok, have fun....:)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
for that first one i got (108n^2+108)/2n^2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ill come back later to see if you posted and if you are still online, i may ask you questions
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
take care, you are a Hero for sure! haha
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Hey Im back, are you there? Its kinda late but did you finish?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
Here it is
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Wow amazing! You broke everything down
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
You really helped me. I can't thank you enough
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