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OpenStudy (anonymous):

could someone explain Rolle theorem?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it is the mean theorum but for a flat line.... really.....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the mean theorum states that any slope between two points can be moved to a spot on the curve where it only touches at one point right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the Rolle theorum states that if the slope between two poits is a flat horizontal line, then there is a point on the curve that the flat line will only touch in one spot......

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks, how is it represented mathematically?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

...that I dont know ;)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if an interval I exists and is continuous between it end points and the interval I [a,b] has a slope of zero between f(a) and f(b) then there exists a point in the interval [a,b] called "c" such that the f'(c) = 0....matbe like that :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh so in essence it's similiar to the mean value theorem?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in essense...it IS the mean value theorum ;) only with a flat line. Why we need it to have its own name is a mystery to me....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah I wonder also I am gonna send you a question and u solve it n show me the steps

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if I got the time, I gotta get to class in 30 minutes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok u gonna be back anytime soon?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

3 hours..if anything. post it up on the main side over there and see if anyone bites.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or let me see it and ill let you know if I got the time :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[let f:[-1,1]rightarrowR be such that\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let f:[−1,1]rightarrow R be such that

OpenStudy (amistre64):

let f(-1) to f(1) be.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f(x)= x^2 - 1/(1+x^2)\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

plug in -1 and solve: f(-1) = 0 plug in 1 and solve: f(1) = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes and show that f satisfies all the conditions for the application of Rolle's theorem

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since the bottom of the function is never 0, we have no restrictions there and the function is continuous thruout the interval...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if we can find the x = c such that f'(c) = 0 ..... then that shuold solve it.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Rolles theorum doesnt tell you HOW to find "c", just that itlll exist :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

are there any values of x in the interval [-1,1] that we should avoid using? I dont see any, so it is continuous right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea it's continous

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what value of x will make the denominator go to zero? 1+x^2 = 0 .....none, nade, zip, ziltch.... its consinuous :) so there must be a c value in the interval [-1,1] that satisfies Rolles theorum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it's saying find all c which satisfy the conclusion of Rolle's them

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if you want to find it, yo could look for the hgihest or lowest value of f(x) and that would be it; or take the derivative and make it equal to 0 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, so take the defferential of f(x) and equate it to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n solve for x?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, at f'(x) = 0 we have what they call "critical points" is is when the slope of the curve becomes "0"...a horizontal line

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes.. (1+x^2)(2x) - (x^2 -1)(2x) = 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

4x = 0....when x = 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(0) = -1 :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanx, have a productive class

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Ciao:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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