Someone who is good with proofs please talk to me
I am not good, but I will try the best I can.
ok I will upload the problem
which problem?
1, 2, and 3 they are extra credit
Couldn't you just pick an a=-9 and see if square root of -9^2 is the same as |-9| ?
R means any number, so try to pick numbers that you think would make it bad, and if they are good..use that as proof.
But if you are looking for book definition type proofs you got me.
I think that when it says show that it wants you to pick numbers from the real set and try to make it false. Is that your understanding too?
well.. I think I got the solution of the first problem
if it involves differentail equations, im outta here :)
i thought your suppose to prove what he asks for
proof is a relative term.
proof to a college teacher and proof to a 6 year old are not going to be the same.
I think anny is doing a differential equation up there :)
since a^2=(+a)^2=(-a)^2, the numbers a, -a are square roots of a^2.. that's: \[a \ge0 \implies \sqrt{ a^2}=a\] \[a<0 \implies \sqrt {a^2}=-a\] which is the same as the definition of the absolute value, so \[\sqrt {a^2}=\left| a \right|\]
you know the definition of the absolute value. right?.. does that make sense then?
we can use what's this theorem we just proved to prove the next problem.
oh ok
we want to prove that: \[\left| ab \right|=\left| a \right|.\left| b \right|\] but we just proved that: \[\left| ab \right|=\sqrt {(ab)^2}\] we can now proceed, \[\sqrt {(ab)^2}=\sqrt {a^2b^2}=\sqrt {a^2} . \sqrt{b^2}=\left| a \right|.\left| b \right|\] that's it.
I dunno if that makes any sense to you, but that's what I have anyway. I wish you get some points for that :)
where did you get the \[\sqrt{ab ^2{?}}\]
yes, me too thank you
it's the first theorem we proved, but instead of a, we have ab.
but how does it become ab^2 when its just IabI= IaI IbI
From part one you showed that \[|x| = \sqrt{x^2}\] Let x = ab and you have it.
what about # 3
the third one is easy.. I will give you a hint
good I wanna try
the following is known: \[a \le \left| a \right|, b \le \left| b \right|\]
Just have to go through the combinations\(a\ge 0, a \lt 0, b \ge 0, b \lt 0\) I'm not sure you can assume that \(x \le |x|\) otherwise you'd just let x = ab and you've already got it. I think you have to show that \(x \le |x|\) using the definition of the absolute value.
^^ I totally agree
though it's easy to prove that using the definition of the absolute value.
what topic is this, thats how lost I am in my calculus class :(
Ok, if a \(\ge\)0 then what is |a| ?
hey lisaj you have to go back and see the definition of the absolute value.
all proofs will make no sense to you if you are not aware of the definition.
@ polpak: IaI is idk i dont get it
if a is 5 what is lal?
the absolute value is 5
good. what if a=-5, then its absolute value is?
5
So if a is less than 0, |a| = -a. If a is greater than (or equal to) 0, |a| = a
Right?
true
so you can see now that |a| is always greater than or equal to a?
so # 3 would be : ab\[ab \le \ \-a |-b\|]
yes anny
ab < or equal to I-aII-bI
\[x \ge 0 \implies |x| =x \implies |x|\ge x\] \[x \lt 0 \implies |x| = -x \implies |x| \ge x\] \[\implies |x| \ge x \text{,}\forall x \in R\] Let ab be a product of real numbers \[\implies ab \in R \implies |ab| \ge ab \implies ?\]
\[\left| ab \right|\ \ge \left| -a \right|\left| -b \right|\]
Well sure, but |a| = |-a|
is what i did the correct answer?
You are trying to show that \(ab\le |a||b|\)
so then it would be |−a||−b|≤ab
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