why x raised to power 0 equals one?
this is another definition
however, be careful 0^0 is undefined i believe
\[x^n \div x^n = x^{n-n} = x^0 = 1 \]
we want that x^m / x^n = x^(m-n) , so what if m = n , then you have x^(0) , which should equal 1
Of course this doesn't hold if x = 0, as it is division by zero. But that is whole different topic.
newton, but thats not a proof
excellent newton
It's a way to explain it - they asked 'why', not for a proof.
ok
by defining x^0 = 1, we are allowed to use the x^m/x^n = x^(m-n) rule without qualifications or caveats
THATS the reason. i dont want to hear anything else
If you write it the other way around it is a proof. View \[x ^{n} \div x ^{n}\] as a fraction. Any number divided by itself is 1.
no it isnt
its a definition, thats all. but there is a reason for the definition
ok prove it, show me the deductive steps , axioms, etc
sorry my style of learning is argumentative, dont take it personally
but ive thought this through, so im fairly confident
"In mathematics, a proof is a convincing demonstration (within the accepted standards of the field) that some mathematical statement is necessarily true." \[x ^{0} = x ^{n-n} = x ^{n} / x ^{n} = 1\] unless I have the definition of "definition" wrong ;)
well why is x^n/x^n = x ^ (n-n) ?
i would say thats false when n=0, and say x^0 is undefined
Personally, I think it's a proof (more so than 0!). You use the definition \[x^n \div x^m = x^{n-m} \] Not every proof have to prove everything right down to the axioms, you know...
so thats the weakest link here
also you have to assume x is not zero
Maybe it needs to have limits set on it? I think the basic question has been answered by INewton though, this is becoming a whole different topic.
\[x^a \div x^b = x^{a-b}\ \forall \mathbb{R};\ x \not= 0\]
Yes, assuming \[x \neq 0\] would solve that problem
and 0^0 is indeterminate, well when we are dealing with functions
You're looking for a problem which isn't there.
hmmm, that does look like a proof,
ie, as a counsequence of a previous definition
i think thats what my point was. its a proof if you first accept the definition x^m / x^n = x^(n-n)
err, you know what i mean
It's a consequence of the rule \[x^a \div x^b = x^{a-b} ... \]
exactly
now ...
Do you prove every rule you use in your proofs?
you can use definitions, thats fine
youre free to define as long as the definition is consistent
yes i try to
Then your proofs must be very boring.
well i dont go back to ZFC , if thats what youre asking
zermelo frankel cohen set theory (where we assume the continuum hypothesis is true)
well one man's boredom is another man's delight. one man's garbaege is another man's delight
one man's cow of a wife, is another man's wet dream
so on and so forth
shall i continue
Topic has been exhausted. I'm out! Hope some help can be found in here lol. :)
No, no - I'm pretty sure anyone would find a proof that went back to the axioms for evey last thing boring.
yes i know i am pedantic. thats the way my brain works
but he asked an axiomatic question
anyways, you answered fine. i was just saying, merely calling it a definition is a bit unneceesary. it has a more fundamental reason
if say , because i defined it that way. ummm, thats not necessary. but its true. you can get away with many theorems by just calling it a definition (in some cases)
for example, you can define the real numbers as a complete ordered field. but thats inelegant
Wait, now that I'm looking at it - why would it be indeterminate when n = 0? That doesn't put a 0 in the denominator...?
id rather say, the real numbers is an example of a complete ordered field, and complete ordered fields are unique up to isomorphism
hmmm
you mean if x = 0 ?
This is what you said: i would say thats false when n=0, and say x^0 is undefined
well say x = 0 , and say n = 3. so 0^3 / 0^3 is undefined
OK so it was a type-o
no its fine if n=0, but x != 0
Just wondering :) See ya!
i have a contradiction
0^2 = 0^4 / 0^2 which is undefined, but 0^2 = 0*0
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