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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question on limits

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} ((n!)^{1/n})/n\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

fun!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Pretty sure the factorial will dominate, but let's find out =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

givng up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i go about it polpak?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, on top you have \(\infty^0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which by itself is an indeterminate form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

agreed

OpenStudy (apples):

The limit does exist and is finite.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes apples thats correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is anyone working on it?

OpenStudy (apples):

I'd suggest using the Squeeze Theorem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is that? would you explain?

OpenStudy (apples):

The squeeze theorem states that, for any function f(x), if you can find g(x) and h(x) such that g(x) <= f(x) <= h(x) and the limit as x goes to a of g(x) is the same as the limit for h(x), then that is also the limit for f(x).

OpenStudy (apples):

Another way to compute the limit would be to use the following definition of e: \[e = \lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{n}{\sqrt[n]{n!}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i didnt quite get that theorm.. by using the definition of e it just means that the question i asked yields 1/e as an answer right?

OpenStudy (apples):

Yes.

OpenStudy (apples):

The theorem states that if you can find functions that are upper and lower bounds of your function, and they have the same limit at a certain point, then your function has the same limit at that point.

OpenStudy (apples):

For example, a lower bound for this problem would be \[\left(1 - \frac{1}{n}\right)^n\] which has a limit of 1/e as n goes to infinity. So if you could find an upper bound of the problem that also went to 1/e, you could state that the answer to the problem is 1/e by the squeeze theorem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i understand now. but how is a the lower limit and the upper limit of a function found?

OpenStudy (apples):

You aren't finding "upper and lower" limits, you're finding limits of the upper and lower bounding functions. Let's consider a simple example, f(x) = 0: \[ \lim_{x \to \infty} f(x) \] An upper bound on this could be something like 1/x, since it is clear that 1/x > 0 for all x > 0. A lower bound could be -1/x, for similar reasons. Since we know that \[ \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{1}{x} = \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{-1}{x} = 0\] and \[ \frac{-1}{x} <= f(x) <= \frac{1}{x} \] for all x > 0, then \[\lim_{x \to \infty} f(x) = 0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it's easy to find the limit using the definition, that apples just mentioned above, for e.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The limit we're looking for is just the reciprocal of it. So: \[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{n. !^{1 \over n} \over n}=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{1 \over {n \over n.!^{1 \over n}}}={1 \over e}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that was a good explanation apples. thank you.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i got it anwar..=)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You already found the answer.. Never mind then :)

OpenStudy (apples):

No prob

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