hi i need help with differentiation equation
post yur question
Solve the seperable differential equation for u
du/dt =e^(4u-16t)
Use the following initial condition: u(0) = 0 U = ?
u*
first lets re-write the equation:\[e^{4u-16t} = e^{4u}*e^{-16t} = {e^{4u} \over e^{-16t}} \]
can you solve from there?
this is calculus btw
ops typo, the last one should be => e^(16t) no negative cause it is as a fraction form
i did do that wat u rewritten
\[{du \over dt} = {e^{4u} \over e^{16t} } \]
is this calculus 1 ?
calculus 2 and i did do e^4u/e^16t how to proceed ?
e(-4u)du=e(-16t)dt solve it for each variable: (-1/4)* e(-4u)=(-1/16)*e^(-16t) + cont simplify
i found the constant to be -3/16
good?
ok. So, now all we do is separate 't' terms and 'u' tems\[{1\over e^{4u}} du= {1 \over e^{16t}}dt\]
yes but i found constant to be -3/16.... what to do next to find u?
is that constant correct?
mathmind, what happens to (-1/4) & (-1/16) coefficients (you have to get it after integration)
thats wat u get when u substitute both u and t with 0
initial condition u(o)=0, what about condition for t?
wasnt mentioned in my question
i found c = 0
agree with MathMind.. c=0
c = 0 u = 4t
is that answer?
yup
it doesnt work, my homework dont accept that
(-1/4)e^(-4u)=(-1/16)e^(-16t) +C -4u=C*(-16t) if u(0)=0, co C=0
HINT: To determine the constant of integration after you integrated both sides, DO NOT take natural logs, but rather just set u = 0 and t = 0 with u and t both still in the exponents. After determining the constant, then you need to take logs on both sides to solve for u. This is what the hint that my questioned offered.
same thing.. c will be equal 0.. that's just a shortcut.. kinda
you didn't tell this before... if u=0 & t=0 C=-1/4 +1/16 = -3/16
'oh wait nvm.. inik is right
so C is not zero? inik do u agree with mathmind?
can u figure out the u now?
comes from: (-1/4)e^(-4u)=(-1/16)e^(-16t) +C (-1/4)*1= (-1/16)*1 +C we did it!
so u = ?
just put value of C=-3/16 in: (-1/4)e^(-4u)=(-1/16)e^(-16t) +C simplify & take ln to both sides
I'm doing it now...
how do i take log of both sides am not good with logs
that is where i am confused at
give me sec
ok
you take ln to take away the e^\[\ln (e^x) = x\]
it only takes away e^?
wat if it is -e^
\[{-1 \over 4} e^{-4u}={-1 \over 16}e^{-16t} +C\] taking the Ln of everything so we can solve for u:\[{-1 \over 4}\ln (e^{-4u}) = {-1 \over 16} \ln(e^{-16t}) + \ln C\]\[{-1\over4} (-4u) = {-1 \over 16} (-16t) + \ln C\]
now do i plug in 0 for t?
let's try: e^(-4u)=1/4 * e^(-16t) +3/4 -4u=ln[1/4*(e^(-16t) +3)] u=-1/4 *[ln(e^(-16t)+3) - ln4] u=ln4/4 -1/4* ln(e^(-16t) +3)
t= variable unless you been asked to put t=o, you can't
u(t)=... u(0) = 0
not for general solution
what you mean?
it was not for you... sorry. you posted your response the same time as me...
oh haha alriught
I mean that the answer should be in form u(t)=...one thing if u(o) means t=0 - another. your response would be correct :)
have to go. Thank you MathMind & jophil - was fun!
np :D thanks for joining
i have to go now baii
ty to u 2 mathmind cya
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