A 26 foot long ladder is leaning against a vertical wall. The foot of the ladder is 10 feet away from the base of the wall. The foot of the ladder is being pulled away from the base of the wall at a rate of 4 feet per second. How fast is the top of the ladder sliding down the wall at this instant? (related rates)
related rates problem awesome!
cyter beat me
lol wrong problem
could both answers be correct?
lol there are two different answers let me see if i made a mistake
You used 4 instead of 10
cyter is right
i used y' for y my bad
cyter wins
we both win because we spent energy working on the problem
lol
in the writing in the purple, isn't the derivative of s^2 2s, not just 2?
yep
the right hand side should have been 2s ds/dt I knew something was amiss.
since s is a constant (it doesnt change) s'=0 so 2ss'=0
so it doesnt change the answer
yep it makes no difference but it looks logical
right and it is best to be logical during to look crazy
than not during*
but what happens to the 2s? does it cancel out? and how does the x (dx/dt) becomes negative?
2ss'=0
the derivative of s^2 is 2ss' but since s doesnt change s'=0
oo right, sorry
factor out the 2 s and devide both sides by 2 0/2 = 0
cyter did you draw that on the computer? it looks very mechanical like
on some parts
lol looks better than my horrible hand writing
\[\text{2((xdx/dt)+(ydy/dt) = 2sds = 0/dt}\] dividing both sides by 2 we have \[\text{((xdx/dt)+(ydy/dt) = sds/dt = 0}\] now subtract both sides by (xdx/dt) we get \[\text{(ydy/dt) = -(xdx/dt)}\] and then divide both sides by y to get dy/dt alone \[\text{(dy/dt) = -(x/y)dx/dt}\] Then plug and play
yes I used paint which isn't very good
Your handwriting is legible, unlike mine where I have to use a drawing program on my computer
i have a scanner haha
lol
ok i get it now, thank you both of you for your help
glad to help
Using cyter's solution diagram, \[y=x \text{Tan}[\text{ArcCos}[x/26]] \] then \[y=26 \sqrt{1-\frac{x^2}{676}} \] The total derivative of the above is: \[\text{Dt}[y]==-\frac{x \text{Dt}[x]}{26 \sqrt{1-\frac{x^2}{676}}} \] Replace x with 10 and Dt[x] with 4 and simplify, \[\text{Dt}[y]==-\frac{5}{3} \] I hope there are no errors. First DE solved in years.
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