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OpenStudy (anonymous):

evaluate the limit as x goes to 121: (attached with radical in denom)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I rationalized the radical. but it still landed up as DNE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oooh, isee what I did wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no limit if that is really the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you use sqrt(x)-11 to rationalize? or

OpenStudy (anonymous):

denominator goes to zero but numerator goes to -110

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no do nothing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you do not get 0/0 you have no hope of finding a limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plug in 121 for x and the numerator is not zero, but rather -110

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have to though, prof is all abt rationalizing the denom though>?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is absolutely no point in it. really

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pls explain? thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i want \[lim_{x\rightarrow 1}\frac{x+2}{x-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see that the denominator goes to 0, but the numerator does not!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gotcha. if I were to rationalize what would the equation be to rationalize ( want to check my rationalizing skills regardless)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so there is nothing more to do. i get no limit. just like in your example

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can do whatever you want, of course, but you would be better served practicing rationalizing the denominator if the problem was \[lim_{x->121}\frac{x-121}{\sqrt{x}-11}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok cool, so it is DNE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because in this case you would get 0/0 and so will have a hope of getting something as a limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you use sqrt(x) +11 to rationalize?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. assuming the problem is as written. i think the whole point of this problem is for you to check what you get before you start doing anything

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is zero over zero considered DNE or 0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

neither.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold on lets go slow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when I rationalize i get a different answer to you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, sorry :-)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you want to take a limit of a fraction say. first you just try plugging in the number. if you get out a number, say 3/2, then that is your answer. if you get out say -110/0 or anything not 0 /0 there is no answer if you get 0/0 you have more work to do. you do not write DNE or 0. you have to do more work to find the limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I get (x-11)/(sqrt(x)-11) times (-sqrt(x)-11)/(-sqrt(x)-11)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you first have to factor before plugging in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

step 1 is just plug in the number, because if you do not get 0/0 there is no need to continue

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so in your problem since you got -110/0 stop right there and say DNE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now in the problem i sent you, you do get 0/0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now there is more work to do. you need to "rationalize the denominator"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, understand thus far

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply top and bottom by the conjugate of \[\sqrt{x}-11\] which is \[\sqrt{x}+11\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me know what you get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, I used -sqrt(x)+11

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first time round I used what you said

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get sqrt(x)-121 in the denom - therefore that is zero !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry sat, my connection is stalling

OpenStudy (anonymous):

zero in the denom, whch means it is DNE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much SAT!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hole on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you doing the problem i sent you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or a different one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was using the wrong equation to rationalize,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see what I was doing incorrect and understand it now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*incorrectly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok because if you rationalize the denominator you should be able to factor and cancel yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

btw the answer to your next question is -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha, you are too good!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well it is really just \[f(x)=-1\] if x < 4 and \[f(x)=1\] if x > 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{x-121}{\sqrt{x}-11}=\frac{x-121}{\sqrt{x}-11}\times \frac{\sqrt{x}+11}{\sqrt{z}+11}=\frac{(x-121)(\sqrt{x}+11)}{x-121}=\sqrt{x}+11\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=\[\sqrt{x}+11\] now replace x by 121 to get 22

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