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OpenStudy (anonymous):

can it be proved that the sum of the distances from any point on the ellipse to the foci of that ellipse is constant for all the points lying on the ellipse ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

proved? dunno; but that is the definition of an ellipse.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am confused whether this is the definition of the ellipse or the one which says "ellipse is the locus of points whose ratio of the distance from a point (focus) and from a line (directrix) is constant (ecentricity) and is less than 1"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plz tell me which is one of the two is the definition of ellipse...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

an ellipse has a constant sum of the distance between all points and the foci

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is the definition of ellipse

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets take a general pt on the ellipse acost, bsint now one focus of the ellipse is ae, 0 and the other is -ae,0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@him1618 i hav given two definitions above. plz tell me which one of the two is the standard definition of ellipse

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now evaluate the distances from both the foci of this general pt add them up...itll come out to be 2a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The ellipse is a conic which is the locus of all points whose distance from a fixed point called a focus , bears a constant ratio to its distance from a fixed line called a directrix. The ratio is less than 1, called the eccentricity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also, the ellipse is the locus of a point whose sum of distances from two fixed points is constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so these are the two definitions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u mean one can be derived from another one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

have u ever done it? plz show me how to do it. (take both cases. i.e take first defn as fact then prove the other one and vice versa)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so ive already told u the method to find the second condition if u derive the equation of an ellipse from its standard mathematical definition (the first one)..ull find that any general pt on an ellipse can be shown in parameter t as acost, bsint

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is extremely long to do....especially on a computer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b ut see (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = e^2[(ax+by +c)/ (a+b)]^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok then. thanx for ur time. tc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

w8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now u dont go about expanding this....cz its one helluva calculation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so this is ur ellipse

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now for simplicity sake, well take a standard ellipse centred at the origin, with length of major axis 2a, and minor axis 2b which is (x/a)^2 + (y/b)^2 = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u get that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya. thats quite clear. i appreciate:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but u proved the eqn of ellipse and not what i wanted u to...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if u observe carefully, u can represent this ellipse as x=acost y=bsint now well see that a general point on the ellipse is (acost, bsint)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now if u remember the two foci of this ellipse were talking about are ae, 0 and -ae,0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

be patient.....now if u evaluate the distances of this general point from these 2 foci and sum them up, the sum comes to 2a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i m not sure, i think i m getting headache. i'll look it again , later and then accordingly reply u... u have got patience. i m impressed.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

keep in touch..dont get stressed its quite easy

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