What is the application of calculus?
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Let's role-play: If you were an epidemiologist, and you had reliable information of a global pandemic, you could use calculus to find when the rate of people falling ill (and reporting it) begins to decrease [second derivative test]. If you were a factory manufacturer, and you wanted to produce the dolls for the minimum amount of cost, maximizing on profit, you could use calculus to find exactly what the optimal amount is. It helps if your calc textbook talks about applications in some depth. On the more light-hearted side, if you're a chef you can use calculus to calculate the velocity of a falling pizza as a function of time ("Calculus and Pizza," Clifford Pickover)
If something changes and causes something else to change, calculus (called analysis in higher mathematics) is a convenient way to calculate and describe the changes. There are a multitude of applications, falling bodies, minimum and maximum values.
calculus deals with various problems in maths - eg ,variable rates of change, areas under curves. it has applications in physics, chemistry, economics, astronomy, mechanics and many other disciplines.
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If something changes and causes something else to change, calculus (called analysis in higher mathematics) is a convenient way to calculate and describe the changes. this is only true when small changes in the independent variable leads to small changes in the dependent variable ( ie, continuous)
not for discrete x
Swapping back and forth between the discrete and the continuous is often only a matter of degree (or scale) eg probability is essentially discrete but with a continuous theory.
calculus is made for continuous change , not discrete
What is made for discrete changes?
there is a discrete differential equations, discrete probability, discrete difference equations
its different,
fortunately many variables in the world (height, temperature, width, age, population, mass, weight) are continuous, so calculus can be used with them. but i see what cantor is saying.
james, youre function earlier blows up when t goes to zero, so you cant bound the initial principal
did i just say population was continuous? that's not true. population is discrete. whoops.
You can use finite difference methods, I don't disagree that the difference between discrete and continuous is an important one but usually its just a question of interpretation.
of course at a fundamental quantum level, reality appears to behave discretely (but is described with probability )
it is often the case we treat population as continuous variable
for instance when you have populations in millions , and the changes are relatively small compared to the population
i take that back, when the x axis is zoomed out, basically, that has the effect of smoothing out all the kinks. if you force continuity
I disagree with the population part
errr, the y axis or population i mean
we use continuous models to discuss population,
Population
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we use continuous models to model population...but the key word is "model." a model is a simplification of reality. the reality is that population is discrete. you can't have 2.43 people, unless you're in Hiroshima.
well a stepwise function over time, if time is zoomed out, you get a continous curve
kind of like how a discrete probability distribution becomes continous
@jamesm I definitely don't approve of people who confuse the model with reality, that's why interpretation is key.
james, thats why population is in millions
if pop is in millions you dont get 2.43 people, but 2.43 million people , which is fine
of course if your model gives you 2.4343323485 people, then youre right :)
in millions
so i guess the problem is not solved by using bigger units
Cantorset2 ur a guru
so we're using the continuous model , because it is accurate "up to" the important features of the actual population
ajeemo, im a neophyte. :)
'cantorset' is a group guru, but his account has been temporarily suspended
making the units larger won't do much to discretize a coontinuous model...there are a number of functions invented for that purpose...like the rounding function and the floor function
wait what? can you give me an example
Quantization
yes...and quantization
oh right, you can floor or ceiling youre infinite decimal continous population to a convenient realistic population
realistic units, whats quantisation
but the point is, the continous shape and the equation concisely summarise the population. briefly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantization "Quantization is the procedure of constraining something from a relatively large or continuous set of values (such as the real numbers) to a relatively small discrete set (such as the integers)."
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