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OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Linear ALGEBRA!!

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

There's the problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First of all to show that a set of vectors is a basis for a vector space, you must show that 1) It spans the vector space 2) It is linearly independent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its just mindless row reductions

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

well I mean how can I show that it spans the vector space.. First of all doesn't B already span R^3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Two show that a set of vectors spans the vector space, you need to show that any vector can be expressed as a linear combination of the set.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's pretty easy to show that for B.. a(1) + b(x) + c(x^2) + d(x^3) can describe any polynomial of 3 degrees or less with different values of a, b, c, and d.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B' just requires a bit of algebra to re-write it in this same form.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Okay.. So what would the notation be? This looks really easy but the notation is mad confusing!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"Two show that a set of vectors spans the vector space, you need to show that any vector can be expressed as a linear combination of the set." ^ and to do that means you have to set up a matrix, row reduce it and show that it has a solutions for all values of the parameters.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its one of the things that involves so much typing, its very hard to help over the net with these sorts of questions

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I dont see any matrices.. or do I use this one: [ 1 0 0 0] | 0 1 0 0] 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

elec, I'm pretty sure I showed it, barring some fancy set notation defining a, b, c, and d. No matrices required.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just for part A right now. If you can demonstrate the dimension of the vector space, for a set of vectors to be a basis it must simply have the same cardinality as the dimension of the vector space and be linearly independent.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Row reduction will help you establish linear independence

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it reduces to the identity matrix its linearly independent

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Okay hold on. Which matrix do I reduce?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Set up a matrix with each basis element as a column, then reduce.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think its the language of linear algebra, that the asker is having trouble with.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Yes, I mean I can see that u can prove that: ax^3+bx^2+cx+d is spanned or whatever they call it by {1,x,x^2,x^3} isn't that like the standard basis.. but how do I prove that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ax^2 +bx^2 +cx +d = \lambda (1) + \theta (x) + \rho(x^2) + \beta(x^3) \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

compare coeffiecents

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

lyamda =a theta = b rho = c beta = d

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its kinda obvious.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Remember that vector spaces are closed under addition and scalar multiplication.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If x^2 is in the set, it can produce ax^2 for any a.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I just saw how my professor proved the first one, he basically said that for: ax^3+bx^2+cx+d = 0 for all x and for all a,b,c,d that are real numbers, the only way that can be true is if: a=b=c=d=0. Is there a similar proof for part 2?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Okay alchemista never mind that. How can I prove that: a) B is linearly independent b) span(B) = V

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

http://www.twiddla.com/572800 You can draw here..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The basic idea of linear independence is that you cannot express one vector as linear combination of the others.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's why your prof talked about this: av_1 + av_2 + ... +av_n = 0 Where the set is linearly independent if the only way to yield 0 is if a_1 to a_n is 0

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Well what is that one vector? And what are the other vectors that's what I'm not getting. And also you guys kept saying that u can row reduce a matrix, but I don't see any matrices.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There is a bijection from any vector space to F^n. You can setup a matrix by going back and forth from the vector space to F^n.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I don't even know what a bijection is.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I always have trouble understanding abstract stuff. Can you give me one example?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok one second

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The first is the standard basis. So that would look like an identity matrix if placed in a matrix.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

okay.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

someone help me please .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm just going to write out the matrix for the second one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Give me a second.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

sorry tabbeyx we're busy try posting it as a new thread.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Okay alchemista, thank you so much for the help, i have a final in two days.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\left[ \begin {array}{cccc} 1&0&-1&0\\0&1&0&-3 \\ 0&0&3&0\\ 0&0&0&5\end {array} \right] \]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Ohhh I see how you're doing this..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

So I have to show that this matrix is linearly independent?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it has rank 4 then its linearly independent. In short if it reduces to the identity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its the vectors that are linearly independent not the matrix (just a clarification)

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

oh I see so every single column inside the matrix must be basic..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Last thing is how do I find change of basis matrix?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

and also I remember there were two conditions: First the matrix must be full rank Second Span(B) = V how do I show that it spans V? Do i have to rewrite it as a combination of the standard Basis?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

By the theory if a set of vectors is linearly independent and contains the same number of vectors as the dimension of the vector space it is a basis. A basis spans.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Proving the concept of dimension for bases is a little tricky and involves a small lemma.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Errr dimension for vector spaces. But I mean the proof involves showing that all bases must have the same cardinality.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Okay forget the proof. For B' I showed that rank = 4 so it's linearly independent, but there are two conditions. B' must be lin indep and span(B') = V how do I prove the 2nd one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's what I just said. The vector space is dimension 4, the set contains 4 vectors, it spans.

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