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OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Guys how do I find change of basis matrix?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Suppose I have two vector spaces: B = {1,x,x^2,x^3} B' = {1, x+1,x^2-2,x^3-x^2}

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I meant i have two bases.. damn lin algebra is confusing..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

and I just made those two up..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In cases where you are going from the standard basis to another basis, the columns just consist of the elements in the new basis.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

So in this case would it be: 1 1 -2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

oh okay thanks! What if it was not from standard basis?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You would have to solve some systems.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

so it's like in first case to prove that B' was the basis I had to rewrite B as a combination of B'. Now to find change of basis matrix I have to rewrite B' as B?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

that is if I'm going from standard to B'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you think about how a matrix transforms a column vector, the entries in the column vector represent the coefficients for the linear combination of the columns in the matrix.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In this case the columns are the basis vectors.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Each column vector representing elements of the standard basis will be transformed into elements in B' [1 0 0 0] to [1 0 0 0 ] [0 1 0 0] to [1 1 0 0 ] [0 0 1 0] to [-2 0 1 0] etc

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

wait do i write them as rows or columns?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

columns

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \left[ \begin {array}{cccc} 1&1&-2&0\\ 0&1&0&0 \\ 0&0&1&-1\\ 0&0&0&1\end {array} \right] \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just out of curiosity did you learn about row reduction yet in your class?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Yes that's the first thing we learn

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Is this right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure you would be required to show that its bijection from the vector space to F^n but I guess that's fine.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

we didn't learn bijections and I also have no idea what F^n is.. im pretty sure we never learned that..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I really think they should be teaching the theory in class first. After that everything else would be less confusing.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

this is a summer class professor is flying through i just remember how to do row ops, finding inverses and rank and stuff like that.. as soon as the abstract stuff started i got lost.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When I took a linear algebra class the very first thing discussed was the theoretical basis for the subject. The axioms of a field, of a vector space. Proving all bases for a vector space have the same cardinality to show that the dimension of a VS is well defined. Discussing linear transformations, proving that for T:V->W dim(V) = rank(T) + nullity(T). What properties do one to one and onto transformations have etc. And how a matrix is really just a linear transformation written with respect to bases etc.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

we started with matrices and row operations. The first thing we did was solving lin eqns with row ops.. anyway i might have some more questions.. im working on one right now.. these proofs are getting to me..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I wish i had taken a linear algebra course like yours alchemista. mine was like Bahroms. i ended up buying two linear algebra books and reading on my own to try and understand more theoretical concepts. Im a little curious, where did/are you going to school Alchemista?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

University of Toronto, it's a Canadian school so you may not have heard of it.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

if it's like University of ______ (name of a city or something) i think it must be good.. I just go to a City University of NY.. like a public school in NY - Baruch college

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at the school i go to, about 85%-90% of people in the math dept are education majors, so the classes never get too theoretical. which sucks for me =/

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Any of u close to graduation yet? I wonder what do u do once u get a math degree.. I dont wanna work in a math field.. Im just minorin in programmin for now..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

I should've minored in math.. I would've been almost done takin math classes..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

computer science?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have about a year and a half to go. i just want to do research.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

so do I actually.. I mean im tryin to graduate in 3 years which is why im ruining my vacations..

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

alchemista, something like that.. i guess u could call that computer science..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well I guess it depends, computer science is very different from software engineering (programming)

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

yea i think im closer to software engineering.. I have to take 3 object oriented programming classes..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

java, c++ or python?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

C++ I guess. I didn't take any of those yet, but I will start C++ in a week and i don't know what those 3 classes are going to be in. Probably java or C++

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you want to do something fun/interesting you should try taking a course on a functional programming language.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haskell, scheme, etc.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

i dont think ima get a chance to.. my school is a really good business/finance school, but not into math and sciences.. I dont even know why i went there..

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