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OpenStudy (anonymous):

At what values of x does f have extrema. Also, what intervals is f increasing? Decreasing? At what values or x does f have inflection points? On what values of x is f concave up? down?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

myininaya (myininaya):

f'=0 when x=-4,0,2,4 so looks before and after each of the above critical numbers to see if f is decreasing or increasing intervals of increase: (-4,0) U (2,4) intervals of decrease: (-inf,-4) U (0,2) U (4, inf) f has max occurring at x=0 and x=4 f has min occurring at x=-4 and x=2 the function is concave up on intervals: (-inf,-3) U (1,3) the function is concave down on intervals: (-3,1) U (3,inf) inflection points are (-3,f(-3)) , (1, f(1)), (3,f(3))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The graph i attached was that of f prime, that is the graph of the derivative of f

myininaya (myininaya):

ok well i did the above under the assumption that the graph was f lol

myininaya (myininaya):

f'=0 when it cross the x axis so those are critical numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you please do it for me?? please, i am sorry i forgot to mention that it was the graph of the derivaitve

myininaya (myininaya):

f'=0 when x=-5,-3,1,3,5 so these are critical numbers these are where the extremas will occur

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about intervals where f is inceasing or decreasing

myininaya (myininaya):

since f'>0 before x=-5, then it is increasing on (-inf,-5) since f'<0 after x=-5 and f'<0 before x=-3, then it is decreasing on (-5,-3) since f'>0 after x=-3 and f'>0 before x=1, then it is increasing on (-3,1) since f'<0 after x=1 and f'<0 before x=3, then it is decreasing on (1,3) since f'>0 after x=3 and f'>0 before x=5, then it is increasing on (3,5) since f'<0 after x=5, then it is decreasing on (5,inf)

myininaya (myininaya):

the inflection points will happen between the critical numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how abot concavity?

myininaya (myininaya):

one sec lets talk about the the inflections first or you can say where f''=0 that is where f' has horizontal tangents so where do you see where f' has horizontal tangents?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that should be at x=-4, x=0, x=2 and x=4

myininaya (myininaya):

very good so inflection points are (-4,f(-4)), (0,f(0)), (2,f(2)),(4,f(4))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, thiese are point where concavity changes, but....

myininaya (myininaya):

so now lets think about how to determine where f is concave up and concave down if we are looking at f we would be looking for U or n U is where f would be concave up n is where f would be concave down so looking at that U it is going from decreasing to increasing so looking at that n it is going from increasing to decreasing so where do we have that it switches from decreasing to increasing lets look at the above intervals that we have that it switches from (-5,-3) to (-3,1) and (1,3) to (3,5) so what inflection point is between (-5,1) and what inflection point is between (1,5)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4 and 4

myininaya (myininaya):

sorry i couldn't find the problem i was like omg i cant find mathdragon lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

myininaya (myininaya):

right so that means it is concave up on (-4,0) U (4,inf) i determine these intervals because the -4 was in the first interval of (-5,1) and 4 was in the last interval of (1,5)

myininaya (myininaya):

does this make sense so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

myininaya (myininaya):

ok so everywhere it wasn't concave up it is concave down right? so we have it is concave down on (-inf,-4) U (0,2) U (2,4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

myininaya (myininaya):

but this would mean i made a mistake because this implies that 2 isn't an inflection point and it is

myininaya (myininaya):

let me go to the restroom and i will be back

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, hope everything comes out alright lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont think x=0 is a crtical value of f prime

myininaya (myininaya):

we have it concave up on (-inf,-4) since by looking at the graph we have increasing to decreasing so that means everything else is easy since at -4,-2,0,2,4 the concavity switchs so (-4,-2) it is concave up (-2,0) it is concave down (0,2) it is concave up (2,4) concave down (4,inf) concave up there i feel better about this

myininaya (myininaya):

i feel 100% positive about my answer now :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at x=0 both the f prime and f double prime are 0 right

myininaya (myininaya):

no f' is not 0 at x=0 we are given the graph of f' f' has 0 value when f' crosses the x-axis

myininaya (myininaya):

just f'' has value 0 at x=0 since we can draw a horizontal tangent there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so f' is just positive there right

myininaya (myininaya):

yes because it is above the x axis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey i am going to draw the graph of f based on the info we got and then i will post it and i want you to check it for me, is that cool?

myininaya (myininaya):

k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Final product, my bad if its a little sloppy lol

myininaya (myininaya):

i don't see anything wrong with your graph

myininaya (myininaya):

when i drew f' off your f we got the same f' we started with so gj

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wish i could give you triple medals for helping me out all this time, thanks

myininaya (myininaya):

np looking off f is much easier than looking off f' because we are use to it i had to think alittle for looking off f' instead

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