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OpenStudy (anonymous):

hi i need help please im trying to use the quadratic formula to solve 3x^2-2x+4 thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this using the b^2-4ac/2a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x=\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You have a=3, b=2, and c=4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did it that way and then when i tried to find F(x)=0 i do not get it right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b=-2 not 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Inside the square root sign, you get\[2^2-4(3)(4)<0\]You can't take the square root of a negative number, which means there are no (real) solutions to this equation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

agreed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well i took the square root of 4 and then of 48 the i subtracted

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes is would be sqrt(-44)/6 and you cant get a square root of a negative number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That violates order of operations. You have to do the 4-48 first.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i have f(x)=x^3-x^2+4x-3 f'(x)=3x^2-2x+4 right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from that i have to find the intervals of increase and decrease and i cant. Im not sure if the function is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, I see. This means that it doesn't switch from negative to positive or vice versa. The parabola opens upward and does not have a zero, which means that every value is always positive. This implies that the function is increasing from -infinity to infinity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can also look at the graph to see this visually.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What does the question actually say?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the question says: for the function f(x)=x^3-x^2+4x-3 determine the intervals of increase and decrease, location of maximum and minimum points, intervals concavity up or down and location of points of inflection

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The fact that the derivative never equals zero means that it is monotonic (always increasing or decreasing - increasing in this case) and that there are no max or min points.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know about the second derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This question is basically asking u to investigate the behavior of the function. There are different methods for doing that, you have tried the first derivative and jabberwock has explained what that result means. The secon derivative tests for concavity, points of inflection but first u need to have an idea about the general shape of the function. You could do this by calculating simple test points for instance (-1,0 and -1 are good candidates to start with).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the second derivative would be 6x-2 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. You can use this to test what's going on with the function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but since this function is always increasing there is not concavity or point of inflection right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There is. The concavity changes from positive to negative. Look for where... \[0=6x-2\]to see where the points of inflection are \[0>6x-2\]to see where it's concave down \[0<6x-2\]to see where it's concave up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is why I said you have to do test points first (a rough plot, perhaps) in order to know a bit about what is going on before u apply the tests.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the function is concave up when \[x >1/6\] and concave down when \[x <1/6\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, if you look at the graph here, I think you can just about see it. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x^3-x^2%2B4x-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THANK YOU so much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have another question please if somebody can help me a function has a local maximum at x=-2 and x=6 and a local minimum at x=1 what is this information telling about the function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Assuming these are all these are the only extrema and the function is continuous, we know that the function is decreasing on the interval (-2, 1) and is decreasing on the interval (1, 6)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it is a differentiable function, we know that f'(-2)=0. It's the same with f'(6) and f'(1).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would it be odd or even?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Neither.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and it would be a polynomial of 4th degree right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You really can't say from this information. For instance, some cubic equations can have a maximum and a minimum, but some (like y=x^3) don't have a maximum or a minimum.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It could be of the 4th degree, 6th degree, etc. Or, if it's not differentiable, you can't tell at all.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but it can be smaller than 4th?

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