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myininaya (myininaya):
time for another cal problem :)
14 years ago
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myininaya (myininaya):
for what values of a and b is the following true?
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}(\frac{\sin(2x)}{x^3}+a+\frac{b}{x^2})=0\]
14 years ago
OpenStudy (zarkon):
i'll give others some time
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
lol
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no, I have no Idea
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
i'm still looking too
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I was trying to remove x from denominator
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myininaya (myininaya):
i have written it one fraction
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myininaya (myininaya):
applied l'hopital (however you spell it)
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myininaya (myininaya):
now i'm working with two equations not sure if it is right yet
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
obviously ignore the 'a'...save for last
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah L'H might be the way to go
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
i'm not sure yet but b might be 0
14 years ago
OpenStudy (zarkon):
nope
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myininaya (myininaya):
lol
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myininaya (myininaya):
oh wait you are right i missed something
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myininaya (myininaya):
b=-2
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
I know I'm right ;)
that is correct
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
when i plugged in 0 into cos for some reason i just okay thats 0 instead of 1
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
you find a?
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
no don't say it yet
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
i won't
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
ok i need to write this over because i just made this look so messy
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
ok i need to apply l'hospital again
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{1}{6} (6 a-8 \text{Cos}[2 x])\]
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myininaya (myininaya):
we need -8cos(2x)+6a=0 as x->0
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myininaya (myininaya):
so we have -8+6a=0
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
so a=8/6=4/3
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
yep
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myininaya (myininaya):
do you got it imranmeah?
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah, L'H three time
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
I did it 2 times
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myininaya (myininaya):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
x^3
3x^2
6x
6
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myininaya (myininaya):
i think i did it 5 times lol
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
used the fact that
\[\frac{sin(u)}{u}\rightarrow 1\text{ as }u\rightarrow 0\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
nice
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
for next one ask multivariable calc
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
you ask one
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myininaya (myininaya):
if you want i mean
i didn't mean to sound bossy lol
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no,ones that I find challenging seems like basic to you
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myininaya (myininaya):
i bet thats not true
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
everything is easy to zarkon
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\sin(x)}{x}dx\]
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myininaya (myininaya):
i have to think a little more than he does
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myininaya (myininaya):
myininaya<zarkon
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
lol
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
me<myininaya<zarkon
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myininaya (myininaya):
myininaya<<zarkon
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
the problem i posted above is a multivar calc problem..believe it or not
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myininaya (myininaya):
imranmeah>myininaya
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myininaya (myininaya):
i don't like the one you post it
its too hard
14 years ago
OpenStudy (zarkon):
prove that any continuous function with domain [0,1] and range a
subset of [0,1] must have a fixed point
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
calc 1 problem
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
But I did figured out the 1=0 one that you posted
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
can you figure out either of the two I just posted ;)
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myininaya (myininaya):
i;m looking at the second one now
14 years ago
OpenStudy (zarkon):
just so we are all on the same page...
A fixed point of a function is a number c in its domain such that f(c) = c
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myininaya (myininaya):
we need to use the intermediate value thm to show that there is a c btw 0 and 1 such that f(c)=c
14 years ago
OpenStudy (zarkon):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i dont know how to say it in words...i'll draw a picture <.<
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
as long as your function is continuous from 0 to 1, f(x) will always cross the line y = x
14 years ago
OpenStudy (zarkon):
look at f(x)-x
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
there is some a in [0,1] such that f(a) - a is positive, then we can also find a b such that f(b)-b is negative. So by the IVT, there there exists a point c such that f(c) - c = 0
i still dont feel im saying it correctly...
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
Let g(x)=f(x)-x
g(0)=f(0)-0
and
g(1)=f(1)-1
but g(1) does not equal g(0)
so by ivt there exist a number between 0 and 1 such f(c)=N
but how do we show N=c?
ok
g(c)=f(c)-c=N-c
0=N-c
c=N
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i didnt get to enjoy my orange :( i was too busy thinking about this problem <.< i only recall eating the last piece!
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
As stated in the article above its a special case of Brouwer's fixed point theorem.
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
I would start with
if f(0)=0 we are done so assume f(0)>0
if f(1)=1 we are done so assume f(1)<1
let g(x)=f(x)-x
then g(0)>0 and g(1)<0
...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
A bigger challenge would be proving the general theorem.
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
how cute you chose the same letter to represent your function
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myininaya (myininaya):
good question zarkon
how do you the first one you mentioned
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
\[\int\limits\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\sin(x)}{x}dx \]
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
rewrite it a double integral
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OpenStudy (zarkon):
as a double integral
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats above me >.< wah
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myininaya (myininaya):
i don't like calculus 3
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i just need to sit down for two months and read a book.
14 years ago
myininaya (myininaya):
i like Calculus-Calculus 3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I think you should start a new thread. They still haven't fixed the rendering speed for long threads.
14 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\sum_{0}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n+1)/(2n+1)!*(1/x)\]
\[\sum_{0}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n)/(2n+1)!\]
\[\int\limits_{}^{}\sum_{0}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n)/(2n+1)!\]
\[[\sum_{1}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n)/(2n+1)!(2n)]\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
(-1)^n+1
14 years ago