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myininaya (myininaya):

time for another cal problem :)

myininaya (myininaya):

for what values of a and b is the following true? \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}(\frac{\sin(2x)}{x^3}+a+\frac{b}{x^2})=0\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

i'll give others some time

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, I have no Idea

myininaya (myininaya):

i'm still looking too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was trying to remove x from denominator

myininaya (myininaya):

i have written it one fraction

myininaya (myininaya):

applied l'hopital (however you spell it)

myininaya (myininaya):

now i'm working with two equations not sure if it is right yet

OpenStudy (zarkon):

obviously ignore the 'a'...save for last

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah L'H might be the way to go

myininaya (myininaya):

i'm not sure yet but b might be 0

OpenStudy (zarkon):

nope

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

myininaya (myininaya):

oh wait you are right i missed something

myininaya (myininaya):

b=-2

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I know I'm right ;) that is correct

myininaya (myininaya):

when i plugged in 0 into cos for some reason i just okay thats 0 instead of 1

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you find a?

myininaya (myininaya):

no don't say it yet

OpenStudy (zarkon):

i won't

myininaya (myininaya):

ok i need to write this over because i just made this look so messy

myininaya (myininaya):

ok i need to apply l'hospital again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{1}{6} (6 a-8 \text{Cos}[2 x])\]

myininaya (myininaya):

we need -8cos(2x)+6a=0 as x->0

myininaya (myininaya):

so we have -8+6a=0

myininaya (myininaya):

so a=8/6=4/3

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yep

myininaya (myininaya):

do you got it imranmeah?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, L'H three time

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I did it 2 times

myininaya (myininaya):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^3 3x^2 6x 6

myininaya (myininaya):

i think i did it 5 times lol

OpenStudy (zarkon):

used the fact that \[\frac{sin(u)}{u}\rightarrow 1\text{ as }u\rightarrow 0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for next one ask multivariable calc

myininaya (myininaya):

you ask one

myininaya (myininaya):

if you want i mean i didn't mean to sound bossy lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no,ones that I find challenging seems like basic to you

myininaya (myininaya):

i bet thats not true

myininaya (myininaya):

everything is easy to zarkon

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\sin(x)}{x}dx\]

myininaya (myininaya):

i have to think a little more than he does

myininaya (myininaya):

myininaya<zarkon

OpenStudy (zarkon):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

me<myininaya<zarkon

myininaya (myininaya):

myininaya<<zarkon

OpenStudy (zarkon):

the problem i posted above is a multivar calc problem..believe it or not

myininaya (myininaya):

imranmeah>myininaya

myininaya (myininaya):

i don't like the one you post it its too hard

OpenStudy (zarkon):

prove that any continuous function with domain [0,1] and range a subset of [0,1] must have a fixed point

OpenStudy (zarkon):

calc 1 problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But I did figured out the 1=0 one that you posted

OpenStudy (zarkon):

can you figure out either of the two I just posted ;)

myininaya (myininaya):

i;m looking at the second one now

OpenStudy (zarkon):

just so we are all on the same page... A fixed point of a function is a number c in its domain such that f(c) = c

myininaya (myininaya):

we need to use the intermediate value thm to show that there is a c btw 0 and 1 such that f(c)=c

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont know how to say it in words...i'll draw a picture <.<

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as long as your function is continuous from 0 to 1, f(x) will always cross the line y = x

OpenStudy (zarkon):

look at f(x)-x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is some a in [0,1] such that f(a) - a is positive, then we can also find a b such that f(b)-b is negative. So by the IVT, there there exists a point c such that f(c) - c = 0 i still dont feel im saying it correctly...

myininaya (myininaya):

Let g(x)=f(x)-x g(0)=f(0)-0 and g(1)=f(1)-1 but g(1) does not equal g(0) so by ivt there exist a number between 0 and 1 such f(c)=N but how do we show N=c? ok g(c)=f(c)-c=N-c 0=N-c c=N

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i didnt get to enjoy my orange :( i was too busy thinking about this problem <.< i only recall eating the last piece!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

As stated in the article above its a special case of Brouwer's fixed point theorem.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I would start with if f(0)=0 we are done so assume f(0)>0 if f(1)=1 we are done so assume f(1)<1 let g(x)=f(x)-x then g(0)>0 and g(1)<0 ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A bigger challenge would be proving the general theorem.

myininaya (myininaya):

how cute you chose the same letter to represent your function

myininaya (myininaya):

good question zarkon how do you the first one you mentioned

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\int\limits\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\sin(x)}{x}dx \]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

rewrite it a double integral

OpenStudy (zarkon):

as a double integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats above me >.< wah

myininaya (myininaya):

i don't like calculus 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just need to sit down for two months and read a book.

myininaya (myininaya):

i like Calculus-Calculus 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think you should start a new thread. They still haven't fixed the rendering speed for long threads.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum_{0}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n+1)/(2n+1)!*(1/x)\] \[\sum_{0}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n)/(2n+1)!\] \[\int\limits_{}^{}\sum_{0}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n)/(2n+1)!\] \[[\sum_{1}^{\infty}(-1)^n(x)^(2n)/(2n+1)!(2n)]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-1)^n+1

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