Simplify: log (1/2) 8
(1/2)^x = 8 x = -3 log(1/2) 8 = -3
does "simplify" mean "evaluate?
Yes I think so
evaluate means find a value
Then no, it's means to simplify it as far as it can go
if so your job is to answer this question; one half to what power is 8, or "what would i raise one half to , to get the number 8?"
in other word solve for y \[(\frac{1}{2})^y=8\]
Then no, it's means to simplify it as far as it can go
Ohkay, how do I do that??
and the answer is -3 pretty much by inspection
2 cubed is 8, and you need to flip it
you have to take the reciprocal and then cube. you pretty much have to figure it out from scratch, there is no formula.
but if you have a calculator i can show you how to cheat
Then no, it's means to simplify it as far as it can go
Ohh I see. That makes sense
it is easy to do if you are allowed to use a calculator
You should show me how to cheat :) lol
ok your calculator already has a log on it. it just says "log"
\[\large \log_{\frac{1}{2}}\left(8\right)\] \[\large \frac{\log_{10}\left(8\right)}{\log_{10}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)}\] \[\large \frac{\log_{10}\left(2^{3}\right)}{\log_{10}\left(2^{-1}\right)}\] \[\large \frac{3\log_{10}\left(2\right)}{-1\log_{10}\left(2\right)}\] \[\large \frac{3}{-1}\] \[\large -3\] So \[\large \log_{\frac{1}{2}}\left(8\right)=-3\]
yeah i know how to use log i just don't know how to plug in th sub (1/2) thing
type in \[\log(8)\div\log(\frac{1}{2})\] and you will get your answer
You cannot. You have to change the base
Base! That was the word I was looking for. Does that trick work with every problem or just ones that it happens to work on like this one?
you can find the log of any number for any base using this \[\log_b(x)=\log(x)\div\log(b)\] where log means the log on your calculator
Then no, it's means to simplify it as far as it can go
Okay cool. I think I remember that formula
if i want \[\log_7(95)\] i just type \[\log(95)\div\log(7)\] and i am done
\[log_b (a) = k \implies b^k = a\] Taking the log (base 10) of both sides we have: \[log(b^k) = log(a)\]\[\implies k\cdot log(b) = log(a)\]\[\implies k = \frac{log(a)}{log(b)}\] But we started with the premise that \(log_b(a) = k\). Therefore: \[log_b(a) = \frac{log(a)}{log(b)}\]
so rather than spending all my time figuring out this to the that is the other, i can just use the "change of base" formula, which is what polpak wrote
Yep. Though I cannot usually remember the formula, so I have to derive it every time ;p
i don't believe you. you want to solve \[b^x=A \]for x i be you go right to \[x=\frac{\log(A)}{\log(b)}\] without thinking
Nope. I'd have to plod along (I'd probably use ln too) \[\implies ln(b^x) = ln(A) \implies x = \frac{ln(A)}{ln(B)}\]
err B=b But even then this isn't the situation we're looking at. We're talking about \[x = log_b45\]
And yeah, I'm gonna have to go to the derivation for that also
Wonderful, I wrote that down in my notes so I don't forget.
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