find limit of... limt x-->1 [2x](x-1).....and points of continuity of f(x)=x-[x], for all x belongs to real no..and please what does it mean by [x]?
i bet it is greatest integer function
limit should be 2
nevermind...errr
\[[x]\] is the greatest integer less than or equal to x. so you have \[[\pi]=3\] and \[[-\pi]=-4\]
here is a nice picture of \[f(x)=x-[x]\] http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x-+greatest+integer%28x%29
discontinuous at the integers
i need a sol problem and i have ashed 2 different question along with the meaning of [x]..please help
ok here is a picture of \[[x]\] by itself http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=greatest+integer+%28x%29
it is called a "step function" because the graph looks like steps.
it means take the biggest integer less than or equal to x. for example, \[[2.3]=2\] \[[7.999]=7\] \[[-2.4]=-3\] in each case the output is the largest integer less than or equal to the input
it is discontinuous at the integers because it jumps there. it is constant on the interval \[[n, n+1)\] where n is an integer.
so for example on the interval \[[3,4)\] it is always 3
let discuss first question...lim x ->1 [2x](x-1)..so what i have to do...i will have to put 1 or some intiger greater than 1
this is \[[2x](x-1)\] right?
you have to take the limit from the right and from the left and see if you get the same thing or not.
yes...i have to calculate just limit for that function,,no need of right or left
if 1<x then \[[2x]=2\] so you get \[2(x-1)\] which goes to zero as x goes to 1
oh but that is the whole point, you have to see if they match up!
limit only exists if its the same number from the right as it is from the left ....
what amistre said. \[[x]\] is tricky at integers. it has a jump there so your real job is to check limit from right and left and see if they agree.
now come to 2ns question f(x)= x-[x] for all x belongs to real no... and in that question we have to find points of discontinuity
they will match because if \[0<x<1\] you have \[[2x]=1\] so your function is \[x-1\] which also has a limit of zero as x goes to 1
i sent you a picture of the second problem. you can see it is discontinuous at all integers
i need a solved problem.. i am unable to understand from pic
what does "discontinuous" mean? it means there is a jump in the graph, so picture gives it. but lets use some algebra if that would help
yes solve it by algebra
lets look at \[x-[x]\] on the interval [0,2) for \[0\leq x <1\] you have \[[x]=0\]
so on the interval \[[0,1)\] you have \[f(x)=x-[x]=x-0=x\]
on the interval \[[1,2)\] you have \[[x]=1\] so on that interval \[f(x)=x-[x]=x-1\]
and so one. so on the interval \[[2,3)\] you have \[f(x)=x-2\] etc etc
in other words you have a piece wise function. on the interval \[[n,n+1)\] you have \[f(x)=x-n\]
this is clearly not continuous for any integer n because the limit from the left and from the right do not agree
ok.thanks
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if x < n you have \[\lim_{x\rightarrow n^-}f(x)=\lim_{x\rightarrow n-} x-(n-1)=1\] whereas if
now what will be the limit of x->0 x[1/x]
and if x > n you have \[\lim_{x\rightarrow n^+}f(x)=\lim_{x\rightarrow n+} x-n=0\]
there all gory details worked out
you want a guess? i would say \[\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}x[\frac{1}{x}]=1\]
yes...but i think it should be zero as we have to put 1 in [1/x] and the it will be x and the put 0?
but guess what you have to do? take the limit from the left and from the right. that is the whole job here i am sure. see that you get one in any case
you lost me. you are taking the limit as x goes to zero, not as x goes to one
so limit goes to zero ... as x=0 xpression will be 0[1/0]..
this is what you have to check, that \[\lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+}x[\frac{1}{x}]=\lim_{x\rightarrow 0^-}x[\frac{1}{x}]\] and my guess is that they do, and that you get 1 in both cases
by putting 0 both goes to infinity
another good point to bring out is that the value of the limit does not care about what the actual value of the function is at the point.
you cannot compute this limit by replacing x by 0 because you will get 0/0 which is meaningless. you have to do something else. also you have to get rid of the greatest integer symbol and write the piecewise version of this thing
right, what amistre said. this thing has no value if you replace x by zero. you have to find the limit.
ok ..thank u all..take care ...:)
good luck. btw i am sure the answer is 1
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