how do you find the center and radius of a circle with points (0,1) and (2,3).
those points are on the circle
(y-h)^2+(x-b)^2=r^2 r is radius (h,b) is center of circle
but how can you use that if you don't already know the center or the radius
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lol im thinking ofeasiest way to do it
haha okay, thank you
1st equation: (1-h)^2+(0-b)^2=r^2 (1-h)^2+b^2=r^2 2nd equation: (3-h)^2+(2-b)^2=r^2 combine equations: (1-h)^2+b^2=(3-h)^2+(2-b)^2
okay, thanks so much!!
u still have to solve it tho lol
haha yes, i know. but that helps a lot knowing how to find center
after u solve that u should get: h+b=3 or some variant
are (0,1) and (2,3) just two points on the circle?
or is there something else we know
yes
you have only two point. you are going to need something else.
not enough info i believe
then the problem can't be solved
all we know is that (0,1) and (2,3) are on the line. and we need to find center and radius. this is in my pre-calc textbook as a homework question
i go to bed now i have to get up at 5:00 am
line?
good night
oh a line. maybe we can do it then
is it a diameter?
myininaya! congratulations again. and you are so colorful!
thanks :)
you guys can do this one maybe if you guess correctly what he wants lol i will leave you
@jahtoday post the entire problem and maybe we can solve it. two point and the line they are on is not enough
its on a circle
its not my post lol ive just been trying to solve it and i couldnt get any further
The problem is to find the center and radius of the circle. Write the standard form of the equation. The graph has a circle with two points labeled and those two points are (2,3) and (0,1). The center is not labeled
does the line go through the center?
If you guys aren't busy can you help me with my question? Thanks :)
there is no line, its a circle. however the two points are on the diameter of the line
you mean diameter of the circle?
yes, diameter of the circle.
then the problem is simple
*smacks head against wall*!
lol
i just graphed it, and on my graph, because (0,1) and (2,3) was diameter, my graph shows (1,2) as center. is that correct?
yes
sorry, i should've explained more at the beginning :/
and then i can plug into the equation to find the radius?
what is the distance from the center to either of the points...
i haven't figured that out yet, do i need to?
yes
what will i use that for?
\[D=\sqrt{(x_2-x_1)^2+(y_2-y_1)^2}\]
but how will that help me find my radius?
the radius of a circle is the distance from the center of the circle to any point on the circle
oh so you can just divide by two?
no...you need to use the distance formula
once you use the distance formula, you divide by two right?
\[r=\sqrt{(2-1)^2+(3-2)^2}=\sqrt{1^2+1^2}=\sqrt{1+1}=\sqrt{2}\]
i also just plugged one of my coordinates and the center into the standard form and solved for radius, i believe it ends up being +/- square root of 2
we ended up with same thing! thank you so much :)
that is because the formula for the circle is really the same as the distance formula
but i have one more question!! in the general equation x^2+y^2+Ax+By+C=0 where do A, B, and C come from
that is if you multiply out \[(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\]
oh it was the diameter! good work
yeah...took us a while but we figured that out ;)
in the general equation x^2+y^2+Ax+By+C=0 where do A, B, and C come from??
\[(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\] \[x^2-2xh+h^2+y^2-2yk+k^2-r^2=0\] \[x^2+y^2+(-2h)x+(-2k)y+(h^2+k^2-r^2)=0\] \[A=-2h\] \[B=-2k\] \[C=h^2+k^2-r^2\]
so you foiled out first. then completed the square?
like how would you write (x-1/2)^2+(y)^2=1/4
you don't need to complete the square
\[(x-1/2)^2+(y)^2=1/4\] \[x^2-2\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{1}{4}+y^2-\frac{1}{4}=0\] \[x^2+y^2+\left(-2\frac{1}{2}\right)x+0y+0=0\]
\[x^2+y^2-x=0\]
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