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OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is an asymptote?

OpenStudy (curry):

its an imaganiry line that a curve never quite touches but come close to

OpenStudy (curry):

its like a boundary

OpenStudy (curry):

so if a vertical asymptote was x=2 then no points on the graph would corss it at any time

OpenStudy (curry):

make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

an asymptote is a horizontal or vertical line that is approached by a graph without touching it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Asymptotes need not be lines. An asymptote can be any function. For instance there are quadratic asymptotes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and aproaching an infinite x or/and y value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the problem is identify the asymptotes, domain and range of the function g(x) = (1/x+7) +3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Asymptote could also be slant as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

an asymptote of a curve is always a line.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Technically, a graph can cross a horizontal asymptote (it's rare, but it can happen), but it can never touch a vertical asymptote. The more accurate definition involves the use of limits (which is a calculus term and concept), so this definition works best (even though it has its flaws).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A function has an asymptote if the limiting behaviour of that function is that asymptote. An asymptote can be any other function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can use limits in getting the asymptote of the curve, but that's only recommended for more complex functions like piecewise functions, for example.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Guys I think we're too wrapped in the definition there's actually a problem to be solved: the problem is identify the asymptotes, domain and range of the function g(x) = (1/x+7) +3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To find any x - asymptotes you take the function in the denominator and set it equal to 0 x + 7 = 0 therefore x = -7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

domain: all real numbers except -7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For the y asymptote it is the constant 3 so y = 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"soxhletapparatus: an asymptote of a curve is always a line" This is incorrect: Example (quadratic asymptote): \[f(x)=\frac{(x+3)^3}{x-3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The domain is all real numbers except -7, of course because we have found out that the function is undefined at that point.

OpenStudy (owlfred):

Soxhletappartauts will you go to the chat for a sec?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The range will be all real numbers

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Vertical asymptote: \[\large x=-7\] (let the denominator x+7 equal zero and solve for x) Horizontal asymptote: \[\large y=3\] (combine the terms and divide the leading coefficients)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

combine which terms?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Combine \[\frac{1}{x+7}\] and 3 to get \[\frac{1}{x+7}+3=\frac{1}{x+7}+\frac{3(x+7)}{x+7}=\frac{1}{x+7}+\frac{3x+21}{x+7}=\frac{1+3x+21}{x+7}=\frac{3x+22}{x+7}\] So after combining the terms, we get \[\frac{1}{x+7}+3=\frac{3x+22}{x+7}\] Now divide the leading coefficient in the numerator (3) by the leading coefficient in the denominator (1) to get 3/1 = 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im sorry. im confused about that long equation up there

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Basically, I added \[\frac{1}{x+7}\] to 3 and I got \[\frac{3x+22}{x+7}\] That long equation shows I did that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you added 1/x+7 to 3 and multiplied the top and bottom by x+7?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\large \frac{1}{x+7}+3\] \[\large \frac{1}{x+7}+\frac{3(x+7)}{x+7}\] \[\large \frac{1}{x+7}+\frac{3x+21}{x+7}\] \[\large \frac{1+3x+21}{x+7}\] \[\large \frac{3x+22}{x+7}\] So \[\large \frac{1}{x+7}+3=\frac{3x+22}{x+7}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yes, that's what I did (shown in step 2). Hopefully that last thing I posted is a bit clearer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. so all of that would equal 3x+21/x+7 right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\large \frac{3x+22}{x+7}\] but you have the right idea

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So this means that the function g(x) is now \[\large g(x)=\frac{3x+22}{x+7}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh! gotcha. ok so now i have that. now what?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Now just divide the leading coefficients. The leading coefficients are the first coefficients. In the numerator, it's a 3. In the denominator, it's a 1 (since x=1x) So \[\frac{3}{1}=3\] This means that the horizontal asymptote is \[\large y=3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sweet. can you help me with finding the domain and range too?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure, the domain is the set of all allowable inputs. Keep in mind that you CANNOT divide by zero So this means that the denominator x+7 CANNOT be zero. If x+7 was zero then... x+7=0 x+7-7=0-7 x=-7 So if x=-7, then x+7 is zero. So we have to exclude that value from the domain (since it causes a division by zero error) This then means that the domain is \[\large \{x|x\in\mathbb{R},x\neq-7\}\] This says: the domain is the set of all real numbers BUT x CANNOT equal -7 In interval notation, the domain is \[\large (-\infty,-7)\cup(-7,\infty)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

The range is the set of possible outputs. The easiest way to find the range is to look at the horizontal asymptote. Often, the graph will not cross the horizontal asymptote (it can sometimes, but that's another story) So because the horizontal asymptote is y = 3, this means that 3 is likely to be excluded from the range. Indeed, it turns out that y=3 is excluded from the range when we look at the graph of g(x) So the range is \[\large \{y|y\in\mathbb{R},y\neq3\}\] In interval notation, the range is \[\large (-\infty,3)\cup(3,\infty)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much!!!!

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