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OpenStudy (anonymous):
JIM!
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
hey
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yo :) much better.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol wtf?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so rewrite the exponential equation as a log
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
our crappy way of direct chat hahd lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
mybrainvsme<-- what does ur username mean?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
3^4 = 81
is 3log81? I can't remember lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
mybrainvsme<-- what does ur username mean?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
convert to same base
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
it means I struggle to learn. It's sort of like... um I dunno can't remember the grammatical term.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\large 3^4=81\] converts to \[\large \log_{3}(81)=4\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
mybrainvsme<-- what does ur username mean?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
81log3=4
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh makes sense.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
is there a latex code for logs? :D
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes \log_{b}(x) ---> \[\log_{b}(x)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
:D cool.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
36^1/2 = 6 lol is there latex for ^exponents?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
^{\frac{1}{2}}
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
cool beans. I think I can do this one..
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
great
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[log_{36}{6}=.5\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Good or \[\large \log_{36}{6}=\frac{1}{2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah didn't feel like writing frac{1}{2} lol
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
lol ok as a shortcut you can type \frac12 instead of \frac{1}{2} but it only works for single digit fractions so it's not too useful
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\9^{\frac{1}{2}} shouldn't that work?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\ [ 9^{\frac{1}{2}} \ ] ---> \[\large 9^{\frac{1}{2}}\]
\ [ 9^{\frac12} \ ] ---> \[\large 9^{\frac12}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
cool beans.
so \[9^{m}\ =37\] is \[log_{9}{37}=m\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yep you got it
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
nice :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay can we simplify some logs?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sure
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
oh are you talking about these logs or other ones you haven't posted yet?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
\[\log_{3}{9}\] <--- simplify.
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
let \[\large y=\log_3(9)\]
So \[\large 3^y=9\]
\[\large 3^y=3^2\]
\[\large y=2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
why am I making it = y lol? Is that just how you simplify logs?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
or...
\[\large \log_3(9)\]
\[\large \frac{\log_{10}(9)}{\log_{10}(3)}\]
\[\large \frac{\log_{10}(3^2)}{\log_{10}(3)}\]
\[\large \frac{2\log_{10}(3)}{\log_{10}(3)}\]
\[\large 2\]
So \[\large \log_3(9)=2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh yeah that works better
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so how did you know to take the square root of 9?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
a power of 3? or 2?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
9 is a power of 3 since \[\large 3^2=9\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ah I see.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no room on my paper :P
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay sorry I'm taking so long
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
np
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
weird...the order of the posts just changed
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so
\[\log_{3}{81}\] are you sure we are simplifying and not evaluating?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
In this case, it's the same thing.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so log base 10 3 log base 10 81?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
81 is 3^3 right?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
3^4
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the answer to this would just be 4?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yep
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
it's asking: the base (3) to what power is the result 81?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
to the 4?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
it's asking: the base (3) to what power is the result 81?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yep \[\large 3^4=81\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[4\frac{\log_{3}}{\log_{3}}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol like that?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
lol yes something like that
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
haha, I take so long to write my code, I don't even notice you've already answered my question.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
but don't sweat over the small stuff
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sha. um okay let me find one I might struggle with.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
:D natural logs? LNe^5
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ah natural logs, probably the most unnatural thing to come across since you start off with logs lol
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
natural logs are logs but they're special logs with base e
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ie \[\large \ln(x)=\log_{e}(x)\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so instead of saying log base e all the time, we use ln (LN) instead
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sha. so this is the same as \[\log_{e}{5}\] ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol no can't be right.
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
close, it's the same as \[\large \log_{e}(e^5)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol just wrote that down as you posted it :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
could you show me the code for that log you just posted?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
cool, so you can take the exponent down and then evaluate the log base e of e to get 1. So you'll be left with 5.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\large \log_{e}(e^5)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh yeah I remember that from class.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
btw you can see any code you want by right clicking the image and selecting "show source"
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oo?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hey how would I put large and red in the same bit of code, for coloring.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?*
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\ [\color{red}{hello} \ \color{blue}{there}\ ] ---> \[\color{red}{hello} \ \color{blue}{there}\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
keep in mind you have to keep it in the { } or else you get only one letter colored and the rest remains black
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\large\color{red}{okay}\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
cool you got it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
:D
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay here is one. \[\log_{y}{\frac{1}{y^4}}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oo, should of put ( ) in there.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
that's ok
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
keep in mind that \[\large \frac{1}{y^4}=y^{-4}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wouldn't the y's cancel then leaving just -4?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yep
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\log_{3}{81}\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
we did this one already, it's 4