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OpenStudy (anonymous):

JIM!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hey

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yo :) much better.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol wtf?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so rewrite the exponential equation as a log

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

our crappy way of direct chat hahd lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mybrainvsme<-- what does ur username mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3^4 = 81 is 3log81? I can't remember lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mybrainvsme<-- what does ur username mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

convert to same base

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it means I struggle to learn. It's sort of like... um I dunno can't remember the grammatical term.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\large 3^4=81\] converts to \[\large \log_{3}(81)=4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mybrainvsme<-- what does ur username mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

81log3=4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh makes sense.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is there a latex code for logs? :D

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes \log_{b}(x) ---> \[\log_{b}(x)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:D cool.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

36^1/2 = 6 lol is there latex for ^exponents?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

^{\frac{1}{2}}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cool beans. I think I can do this one..

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

great

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[log_{36}{6}=.5\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Good or \[\large \log_{36}{6}=\frac{1}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah didn't feel like writing frac{1}{2} lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lol ok as a shortcut you can type \frac12 instead of \frac{1}{2} but it only works for single digit fractions so it's not too useful

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\9^{\frac{1}{2}} shouldn't that work?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\ [ 9^{\frac{1}{2}} \ ] ---> \[\large 9^{\frac{1}{2}}\] \ [ 9^{\frac12} \ ] ---> \[\large 9^{\frac12}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cool beans. so \[9^{m}\ =37\] is \[log_{9}{37}=m\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep you got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nice :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay can we simplify some logs?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh are you talking about these logs or other ones you haven't posted yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay \[\log_{3}{9}\] <--- simplify.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let \[\large y=\log_3(9)\] So \[\large 3^y=9\] \[\large 3^y=3^2\] \[\large y=2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why am I making it = y lol? Is that just how you simplify logs?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

or... \[\large \log_3(9)\] \[\large \frac{\log_{10}(9)}{\log_{10}(3)}\] \[\large \frac{\log_{10}(3^2)}{\log_{10}(3)}\] \[\large \frac{2\log_{10}(3)}{\log_{10}(3)}\] \[\large 2\] So \[\large \log_3(9)=2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah that works better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so how did you know to take the square root of 9?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a power of 3? or 2?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

9 is a power of 3 since \[\large 3^2=9\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah I see.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no room on my paper :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay sorry I'm taking so long

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

np

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yeah basically I recognized that 9 is a power of 3 and logs deal with powers and exponents.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

weird...the order of the posts just changed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so \[\log_{3}{81}\] are you sure we are simplifying and not evaluating?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

In this case, it's the same thing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so log base 10 3 log base 10 81?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

81 is 3^3 right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

3^4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the answer to this would just be 4?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's asking: the base (3) to what power is the result 81?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to the 4?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's asking: the base (3) to what power is the result 81?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep \[\large 3^4=81\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[4\frac{\log_{3}}{\log_{3}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol like that?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lol yes something like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha, I take so long to write my code, I don't even notice you've already answered my question.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but don't sweat over the small stuff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sha. um okay let me find one I might struggle with.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:D natural logs? LNe^5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ah natural logs, probably the most unnatural thing to come across since you start off with logs lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

natural logs are logs but they're special logs with base e

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ie \[\large \ln(x)=\log_{e}(x)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so instead of saying log base e all the time, we use ln (LN) instead

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sha. so this is the same as \[\log_{e}{5}\] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol no can't be right.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

close, it's the same as \[\large \log_{e}(e^5)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol just wrote that down as you posted it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you show me the code for that log you just posted?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

cool, so you can take the exponent down and then evaluate the log base e of e to get 1. So you'll be left with 5.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\large \log_{e}(e^5)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah I remember that from class.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

btw you can see any code you want by right clicking the image and selecting "show source"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oo?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey how would I put large and red in the same bit of code, for coloring.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?*

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\ [\color{red}{hello} \ \color{blue}{there}\ ] ---> \[\color{red}{hello} \ \color{blue}{there}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

keep in mind you have to keep it in the { } or else you get only one letter colored and the rest remains black

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\large\color{red}{okay}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

cool you got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay here is one. \[\log_{y}{\frac{1}{y^4}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oo, should of put ( ) in there.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

keep in mind that \[\large \frac{1}{y^4}=y^{-4}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wouldn't the y's cancel then leaving just -4?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\log_{3}{81}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we did this one already, it's 4

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