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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't figure out how to find the area of the shaded region in this circle, for some reason its just not making sense to me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hero (hero):

You're not done drawing the figure. I can show you on twiddla

hero (hero):

http://www.twiddla.com/solved

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it makes sense to me that the length of each arc is 1/4 of the circumference, so at least half of the area of the circle is contained in shaded area.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just don't know how to proceed further if if don't know the radius of the circle

hero (hero):

Yeah, I was just going to say that we don't know the radius of the circle yet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why are the 90 degree quadrants marked?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think so you know that the length of each arc is a 1/4 of the circumference of the whole circle

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nothing to do with the shaded figure?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't think so

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OK, so they are nothing to do with anything then, just checking...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If that's all they gave u, have to assume radius r and give the answer in terms of r (assuming it is possible, I haven't really looked at it yet)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

They haven't even specified that O is centre, assume it is....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So what do u think, r u expected to provide "algebra" responses or is that not something u wre expecting?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the answer is supposed to be an actual number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know the area of each unshaded region is (1/2)(2 ft)(length of the chord)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think the right triangles you could draw would be 45-45-90 triangles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can give it algebraically because there is a formula for the segment but needs either length of segment or angle at centre or radius, none of which we have or can get. Drawing triangles won't help because u only have one length and cannot get more. I will think about it a little more, I am fairly sure a numerical answer is not possible.

hero (hero):

I'm starting to be convinced that the radius is 2sqrt{2}

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

The angles are 45 degree angles. Thus radius = 2sqrt(2) Area of 90 degree sector = 2*pi Area of triangle = 4 Total shaded area = 4+4+2pi+2pi = 8+4pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cool. that is what i was starting to think.

hero (hero):

Welp, looks like dumbcow got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The angles are 45 degree angles. How do u get this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OK u take bisection at centre, fair enough.

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

If theta is angle of one triangle, then 90-thets is angle of other triangle cos(theta) = 2/r cos(90-theta) = sin(theta) = 2/r cos = sin --> theta = 45

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, which triangles?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If theta is angle of one triangle, then 90-thets is angle of other triangle cos(theta) = 2/r cos(90-theta) = sin(theta) = 2/r cos = sin --> theta = 45 This is just a circular argument...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

drawing a line from the center point to each end of the chord

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Look at my pic...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

U see 45 degrees there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm not sure, honestly it took me forever to figure out what to do looking at my original picture

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i haven't done geometry for five years

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The only way it could possibly work out (I think) is id¡f thye corners of the shaded area were aligned with the 90 degree points that are marked. Otherwise there are many different circles that could match the 2 feet dimension.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i agree. the only reason i came to the conclusion i did is because of the 90 degree markers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But in the picture they are not aligned...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And I think u cannot assume it....( or u can assume it and say u have)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, let me know if u think I have it wrong....

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