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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If the argument below is valid, name which of the four valid forms of argument is represented. If it is not valid, name the fallacy that is represented. If the water is filtered, then it does not contain lead. The water does not contain lead. Therefore, the water is filtered.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm have to show work.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

r u taking my test

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

If the water is filtered, then it does not contain lead translates to p --> ~q

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what test?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

The water does not contain lead translates to ~q

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sandii have u searched it on google

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i have... and i still got lost... why?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

Argument is not valid p --> ~q we have ~q however that does not imply p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Jim you still here?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is the fallacy that is represented?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110530070815AAy8uXL This is a case of the fallacy of "Affirming the Consequent". Not valid. This argument confuses a statement with its converse.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ty dumbcow but jim was helping me LEARN the stuff instead of telling me the answer.. :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

also known as the converse error

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it sandii

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ty hell

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so u want to know about this topic more right~

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for example, if I have p --> q and I know that q is true, then it's completely wrong to say that p is true because of q is true Ie, we can't rewrite p --> q into q --> p because the converse is NOT true

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's why it's called the converse error

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is a good spirit keep it up : see Affirming the consequent, sometimes called converse error, is a formal fallacy, committed by reasoning in the form: If P, then Q. Q. Therefore, P. An argument of this form is invalid, i.e., the conclusion can be false even when statements 1 and 2 are true. Since P was never asserted as the only sufficient condition for Q, other factors could account for Q (while P was false). The name affirming the consequent derives from the premise Q, which affirms the "then" clause of the conditional premise.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

does that make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it does now..

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

cool

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thnx for giving me medal , well i am kushashwa here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u in which standard (grade)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is college math first yr. 2nd time around

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i m in 8th grade( m 13 years old )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok... ty by now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it should be bye :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

really? your gonna start with me like you did with polpak? thank you BYE NOW!

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