what is d/dx of sqr root (1−x2−y2)?
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\[\frac{-x}{\sqrt{-x^2-y^2+1}}\]
= -(-2x)/ 2sqrt(1−x2−y2) = x/sqrt(1−x2−y2)
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\[d/dx \sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}\] \[\frac{d/dx(1−x^2−y^2)}{\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\] \[\frac{−2x−2y\ y'}{\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\]
forgot the 2 on the bottom :)
\[\frac{−2x−2y\ y'}{2\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\] \[\frac{2(−x−y\ y')}{2\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\] \[\frac{−x−y\ y'}{\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\] and solve for y'
But y′ is zero, since we are differentiating with respect to x. Isnt it?
no; y' is unknown
but to clarify; is this partial derivative or implicit?
Implicit
then y' pops out; dy/dx doesnt = 0 all on its own
its simply a rate of change in y with respect to x
ok. I understand
But my doubt started when I was trying to find the outward normal vector to a sphere. Can you help me with it?
\[\frac{d}{dx} \sqrt{1−x^2−[y(x)]^2}\] \[\frac{{d}{dx}(1−x^2−[y(x)]^2)}{2\sqrt{1−x^2−[y(x)]^2}}\] \[\frac{\frac{d}{dx}1−\frac{d}{dx}x^2−\frac{d}{dx}[y(x)]^2}{2\sqrt{1−x^2−[y(x)]^2}}\] \[\frac{−2x−2[y(x)]*\frac{dy}{dx}}{2\sqrt{1−x^2−[y(x)]^2}}\] \[\frac{2(−x−[y(x)]*\frac{dy}{dx})}{2\sqrt{1−x^2−[y(x)]^2}}\] \[\frac{−x−[y(x)]*\frac{dy}{dx}}{\sqrt{1−x^2−[y(x)]^2}}\] \[\frac{−x−y*\frac{dy}{dx}}{\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\]
outward normal vector to a sphere is the partial of df/dx and df/dy
agreed. But in my previous question on that , somebody replied that to be the grad of that function.
But grad of that function and the the partial of df/dx and df/dy are turning out to be different. So I am confused?
the gradient is the "equation" for the normal; same thing
Sorry for taking too much of your time. In the question it was to find the direction of the outward normal to x2 + y2 + z2=1 at (1,1,1)? Kindly refer my previous question. Somebody replied me to take the grad of the function, which got to be 2 x r (where r is the radius vector) But when we take in parametric form by taking partial differentiation, are we getting the same answer. Confused. kindly help..
\[f(x,y)= \sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}\] \[df/dx= \frac{-x}{\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\] \[df/dy= \frac{-y}{\sqrt{1−x^2−y^2}}\] partials are done by treating the non-variable a constant the normal is: <df/fx, df/dy> for any given (x,y)
internet is goofing up on my end
if we take the partials of the f(x,y,z) the are simliar and the same concepts are involved
the gradient provides general equations that are used to solve for the normal at any given point; so if we know the gradient, and a given point; we can know the normal at the point ...
Oh. Ok.
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"In the question it was to find the direction of the outward normal to x2 + y2 + z2=1 at (1,1,1)" \[f(x,y,z) = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 -1\] \[df/dx = 2x\] \[df/dx = 2y\] \[df/dx = 2z\] normal at (1,1,1) when the gradient is: 2<x,y,z> = 2<1,1,1>
Okay. Much better understanding now.
it just so happens that the vector from the origin (0,0,0) to the point (1,1,1) is: <1,1,1> and in sphere, the normal is in a straight line with the vector from the origin :) if that makes sense
Okay. Much better understanding now.
Thanks very much. Highly appreciated.
youre welcome :)
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