can someone show me step by step on how to do the attach problem?
i take it thats a 4rt(..) ?
its hard to jump back and forth with these things; itd be better if you could learn to type them out at least :)
usually you multiply by a conjugate form
\[\lim_{h->0}\frac{\sqrt[4]{16+h}-2}{h}\]
yeah, but its take me a long time to do that
its spose to, that teaches you the math discipline :)
True!
isnt this number 2:- f(x) = x^(1/4)
But, again when I try to type euqation its doesn't always come out clear enough
on this website
\[\lim_{h->0}\frac{\sqrt[4]{16+h}-2}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0}\frac{\sqrt[4]{16+h}-2}{h}*\frac{\sqrt[4]{16+h}+2}{\sqrt[4]{16+h}+2}\] \[\lim_{h->0}\frac{\sqrt[4]{(16+h)^2}-4}{h\sqrt[4]{16+h}+2}\] that could have worked out better :) conjugate again?
isn't the square root on the numerator suppose to cancel out?
yeah .... lets try that way too :)
\[\lim_{h->0}\frac{\sqrt{(16+h)}-4}{h\sqrt[4]{16+h}+2}*\frac{\sqrt{(16+h)}+4}{\sqrt{(16+h)}+4}\] \[\lim_{h->0}\frac{16+h-4}{h(\sqrt[4]{16+h}+2)(\sqrt{16+h}+4)}\] \[\lim_{h->0}\frac{12+h}{h(\sqrt[4]{16+h}+2)(\sqrt{16+h}+4)}\]
this right so far?
yes!
you agreeing or verifying :)
both
wait! on the numerator its suppose to be 16+h-16
\[\lim_{h->0}\frac{12+h}{h((16+h)^{1/4}+2)((16+h)^{1/2}+4)}\] \[\lim_{h->0}\frac{12+h}{h((16+h)^{3/4}+4(16+h)^{1/4}+2(16+h)^{1/2}+8)}\] good eye :)
then lets cancel hs and solve for the others for 0
\[\lim_{h->0}\frac{h}{h((16+h)^{1/4}+2)((16+h)^{1/2}+4)}\] \[\lim_{h->0}\frac{1}{((16+h)^{1/4}+2)((16+h)^{1/2}+4)}\] \[\frac{1}{((16)^{1/4}+2)((16)^{1/2}+4)}\] \[\frac{1}{(2+2)(4+4)}\] \[\frac{1}{(4)(8)}=\frac{1}{32}\] no?
That right but, its not one of the answer choices.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim {h-%3E0}+%28%2816%2Bh%29^%281%2F4%29-2%29%2Fh
well have to consider what the problem is asking then
which function given is the value 1/32?
the problem asks you to find the function which leads to this limit and also the value of a
youll have to derive the given functions and relate them at f'(a) i think right?
right
i think its number 2 : x^1/4 a = 16
can you please show how you got that answer?
i think number 2 as well; f'(x) = \(\cfrac{1}{\sqrt[4]{x^3}}\) ; at x=16?
???
that give 1/8
ok
unless we did an error in the first part; number 2 looks the best fit
and by we i meant me lol
if you work back and differentiate x^1/4 from first principles it leads to the limit quoted in the question - according to my workings
what about the answer amistre64 got 1/32, was that necessary?
.... i hoe so, that was alot of work :)
pppp hope
so why do you think the answer is choice 2
you got more than 6 answers to choose from?
wolfram says 1/32 was right if the link hadnt chopped
no, just 6
i forgot the 4 .... doh!
\[[x^{1/4}]'=\frac{1}{4x^{3/4}}\]
thats why it told me 8, i forgot the 4 :) 1/8(4) = 1/32
oh, ok! also the answer choice has a=16, why?
they use "a" instead of "x" to indicate that its a specific number in the domain
f'(a) such that a=16
also where did you get X^3 from they only gave X^4
instead of saying; go get me one of those pencils over there. They are saying: go get me that pencil over there
y = x^(1/4) if y increases by a quantity dy and x increases by dx y + dy = (x + dx)^4 dy = (x + dx)^1/4 - x^ 1/4 dy/dx = [(x + dx)^1/4 - x^ 1/4 ]/ dx for dx insert h and for x insert 16 limit x>0 = [(16 - h)^1/4 - 16^1/4] / h = [(16 - h)^1/4 - 2 / h
we need a function that goes under; and fractional exponents do that since you subtract 1 from it and it goes negative
\[\frac{d}{dx}{x^{1/4}} \implies\frac{1}{4}\frac{1}{x^{3/4}} \]
when x = a = 16; we get a value that is 1/32
oh, ok thanks some much!
youre welcome
how come you had to take the conjugate two time?
howdy
the conjunction only resolves a square root; this was a 4th root
as a result, the first conjugate canceled out a square and left us with a remaining square to deal with
in other words: \[x^{1/4}*x^{1/2}=x^{1/2}\] \[x^{1/2}*x^{1/2}=x\]
oh, ok thanks for clearing it up for me
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