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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do you convert numbers from real to scientific notation...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the genral form Ax10^n A<10

OpenStudy (amistre64):

scientific notation is just a way to take large huge massively gigantic numbers and write them in a small compact way

OpenStudy (amistre64):

simply by moving the decimal over so that it represents a number between 1 and 9 inclusive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so can you give an example?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like 1,061.8

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lol.. 13,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, that works too ...lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1.3 x 10^61

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not to mention itty bitty numbers like \[0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 1\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it works the other way for gigantically small numbers to

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good morning!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

howdy :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you really count that...lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i like gigantically small. can i use that?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes you can :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i surely will. probably before the day is out thanks

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i counted 20 sets of 000, gives me 60 zeros, +1 more for the 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if it is 1061.8 you move it left 3 times

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from there, what is 10^n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

see how easy this makes big numbers. by counting amstre wrote \[1.3\times 10^{21}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

10^(how many spots you moved the decimal)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait.. so what is the number?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x*10^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what will x be?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x means "times"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, sorry i meant

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1061.8 = 1.0618 "times" 10^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what will the decimal be

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1061.8 x10^0 106.18 x10^1 10.618 x10^2 1.0618 x10^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you do know that 10^0 = 1 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i remember hearing that you put how much numbers there are after / before the decimal to be the exponent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets take 158 how can we fit this number between 1 and 9 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 and 9?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1.58^2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

158 x10^0 = 158: doesnt fit 158 x10^1 = 15.8: doesnt fit, still to big 158 x10^2 = 1.58: thatll fit between 1 and 9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops, 1.58(times) 10^2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and i choose the upper of 9, but that is inherently a fault of mine lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we want to make it start with an integer from 1 to 9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so can i tell you some from my worksheet and tell me if i did it right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets take a small number; and make it fit the bill .000345 falls thru the netting, its way to small; how would we make it fit?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you can

OpenStudy (anonymous):

err... 3.45 X 10^4?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youve got the idea right, but the wrong exponent :) youve just made it alot smaller that way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh would it be negative?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait, so negative means you draw the decimal point to the right and positive, left?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we need to divide by 10s to make it bigger now; and a negative exponent is notation for division

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[N*\frac{1}{10^3}=N *10^{-3}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it would be nice to remember a pattern, but its more helpful just to understand what the math is doing :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if it's a decimal already, the scientific notation would be negative

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like decimal from thebeginning

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Waaaait.. GRR

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just forgot.. if it was 0.01233

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you trying to put it like 1.233 X 10^2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like make the first number be the first whole number

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, but since its a decimal already, we divide by 10s \[\frac{0.01233}{10^0}\] \[\frac{00.1233}{10^1}\] \[\frac{001.233}{10^2}\] \[1.233\ x10^{-2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uh...sorry im getting lost with the division. why do you need to divide?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in fact, that seems to be more intuitive than any other way i see :)... start out with the 10 underneath and that way the decimals moves in the same direction as the exponent

OpenStudy (amistre64):

a negative exponent IS division

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and its negative because it goes to the right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so how many zeroes, you divide by

OpenStudy (amistre64):

watch this; im going to take 541.56 and change it ... go ahead and stick it over the 10^0 \[\frac{541.56}{10^0}\] now as you move to the decimal to the left, you feel like your going in the negative direction correct?; so go negative on the exponent. \[\frac{541.56}{10^0}\] \[\frac{5.4156}{10^{-2}}\] now when you bring up the 10, change the sign of the exponent, since thats what bringing up a denominator does .... \[\frac{5.4156}{10^{-2}} =\ 5.4156\ x10^{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be like

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when you are dividing or multiplying

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you try to make it go to the direction to get it smaller or bigger

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok sorry just reading somehting over in my worksheet

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets work out a worksheet problem, go ahead and post one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

112.94, i got 1.1294 X 10^2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its correct; 112.94 /10^0 11.294 /10^-1 1.1294 /10^-2 1.1294 x10^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1679.7, i got 1.6797 X 10^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh nevermind i mistaken the decimal as comma ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then 0.0000685 6.85 X 10^6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i try to think of that when its too small, youre trying to make it bigger, closer to 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

0.0000685 / 10^0 00.000685 / 10^1 0000.0685 / 10^3 000006.85 / 10^5 6.85 / 10^5 6.85 x10^-5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes wsorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why is it 5?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i went one over to the 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i went tried to go backwards

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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