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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do i take the following partial derivative?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

partials are simliar to implicits except that you count the nonworking variables as constants.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(x,y) = xy+y df/dx = y df/dy = x+1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[d(\psi(x,y))/dx = K/(2\pi) \arctan(\arctan(y/x)) \] as well as the partial with respect to y

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ouch, thats a mess lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks amistre but i wanted to submit the typed equation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is arctan tan^-1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

google says YES! haha <3 google

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[f(x,y) = \frac{K}{2\pi\ tan^{-1}(\tan^{-1}(y/x)}\] i take it K is a constant ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so how do i handle \[df(x,y)/dx = \tan ^{-1}(\tan^{-1}(y/x))\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes K/2pi is going to be a constant

OpenStudy (amistre64):

chain rules ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can we determine what the derivative of: \(\cfrac{1}{tan^{-1}(x)}\) actually is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u mean 1/tan(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats 1/(1+x^2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait hteres a negative

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1/ tan-1(x) = y (1/x) = tan(y) int: ln|x| = sec^2(y) y' \(\cfrac{ln|x|}{sec^2(y)} = y'\) \(\cfrac{ln|x|}{tan^2(1/x)+1} = y'\) or did i miss something?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

man its been along time since calculus 2 for me. lol i cant remember. Um so does each x then equal tan-1(y/x)?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lol ... when we determine the derivative for 1/tan-1(x) we can address it; but its the chain rule that applys and pops out successive terms on us till we get inside there to deal with the y/x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

says d(tan^-1(x))/d(x) can be 1/(x^2+1)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, but that is not what you have posted. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d%2Fd%28x%29+%281%2Ftan^-1%28x%29%29

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i didnt say 1/tan^-1(x) i said tan^-1(tan^-1(y/x))? or maybe i'm missing a step?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ive gotta run to class; good luck with it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dang okay. good luck at class.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

I was under the impression that you wanted something close to this: \[f(x,y) = \frac{K}{2\pi\ tan^{-1}(\tan^{-1}(y/x)}\] something like this would be easier to do i admit :) \[f(x,y) = 2\pi\ tan^{-1}(\tan^{-1}(y/x)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah nope. thanks though. I found a way to do the problem in cylindrical coordinates.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

cool :)

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