You are taking a road trip in a car without A/C. The temperture in the car is 108 degrees F. You buy a cold pop at a gas station. Its initial temperature is 45 degrees F. The pop's temperature reaches 60 degrees F after 41 minutes. Given that T-A/To-A=e^-kt. where T= the temperature of the pop at time t. To= the initial temperature of the pop. A= the temperature in the car. k= a constant that corresponds to the warming rate. and t= the length of time that the pop has been warming up. How many minutes will it take the pop to reach 81 degrees F?
oh lord really? we can do this but it is going to take some time
tell me about it. Ive tried it a few already
ok first off forget about the verbiage
ok should we set it up first?
\[108-45=63\] and \[108-60=48\] those are the numbers we will be working with
we start counting at time t = 0 and at t = 0 we have 63 at t = 41 we have 48 so the problem is find the exponential function containing the points (0, 63) and (41,48)
so we have \[y=63e^{rt}\] and we are looking for r we know when t = 41 we have y = 48 so write \[48=63e^{41r}\] and solve for r
solving here is a little tricky. should i divide by 63 then multiply both sides by natural log?
right i screwed that up! you are right except please don't say to your teacher "multiply by the log" he or she will think you are a moron. say "take the log" and they will be happier. write \[\frac{48}{63}=e^{41r}\] \[\ln(\frac{48}{63})=41r\] \[r=\frac{\ln(\frac{48}{63})}{41}\]
so now we have r and we can compute it with a calculator
its -.0066
-0.006632529
yeah got it. ok now we want to know when the thing will be 81 degrees but BE CAREFUL because it is the difference in the temperatures we are looking at
so the difference is 27?
right. exactly!
so we want to solve \[63e^{-.0066t}=27\] for t
and we run through the same routine again
divide by 63, take the log, divide by -.0066
Can you calculate k the warming rate from the fact the pop goes from 45 to 60 (15 degrees) in 41 minutes, or are you not concerned with k??
@radar no, because it is the difference in the temperatures that decays
128.3684
we got k = -.0066 only i called it r . same thing.
Oh O.K.
@bbaker i got the same thing. there is another way to do this that is perhaps quicker but never mind it involves basically the same work
it is not accepting that answer. I don't know why
always work with the differences in the temperature and then you don't have to worry so much about the cumbersome formula maybe we made a mistake let me check
maybe it mean how many MORE minutes will it take, in which case subtract 41
hmmm. not it either. Im stumped haha
even using more decimal place accuracy i still get 128 minutes rounded
ok. I will have to email my teacher. Thank you
sorry we did not get an answer that the system likes but i don't see a mistake.
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