integral ((x^2 + 1)^1/2)/x from 1 to 2
u=x^2+1 du =2x dx du/2x=dx
this is really crazy looking but can't you u just be be the top
I would use u substitution here. Try making: u=(x^2+1)
\[\int\limits_{1}^{2} \sqrt{x ^{2} - 1} / x\]
I'm supposed to do it by setting up a right triangle of some sort
x=(u-1)^(1/2)
ohhhhh
trignometric substitution
yes!
u= asec(theta)
let x = 1sec(theta)
dx=sec(x)tan(x)
how did you come up with =1sec(theta?
there is special instances ... like how i remember is that when you were taught inverse trig integrals
i'm not sure how they work again but it is triangles that describe the relationship
for inverse A^2+u^2 =was how you noticed arctan correct well the same for trig substitution only with a squareroot
when you did inverse trig when you saw sqrt of u^2-a^2.... secant was the first you thought of
oh okay, so in this problem, x would be hypotenuse, adjacent would be 1, and opposite would be root x^2 -1?
yes once you get all the way at the end you have to remember you used substitution so you have to put it back into x form
okay so sec (theta) = x, so dx = sec(theta)tan(theta)
tan (theta) = root x^2 - 1
then substituting: tan(theta)sec(theta)tan(theta)/sec(theta)
so far looks good
so cancel sec(theta), and then its just the integral of tan^2 (theta)? is that right?
i believe so
how do i do integral of tan^2 theta?
however you cannot take the integral of tan^2 so you are going to have to do
trignometric integrals which is what you were doing before
okay how would i start that?
with the identity \[\cos^2(x)+\sin^2(x)=1\] \[1+\tan^2(x)=\sec^2(x)\]
okay so tan^2 x = sec^2 x -1
exactly
so the integral of that is tan x - x?
well now you integrated it... but however you used substituion much like you did with u..... so when you evaluate you have to do something
and your x should be thetas
oh yeah thanks
\[\tan \theta - \theta from 1 \to 2\]
so would i substitute something in for theta?
those are the integration limits for x
you can either change your integration limits to theta or x
ill change theta to x, its easier for me
what would theta change to though?
arcsec
use your substitution that u started with to solve for theta
1.22
okay so: \[(\sqrt{x^{2}} - 1) - arcsec x from 1 t\]
that looks correct
okay how do i solve arcsec x now?
integral sqrt(1+x^2)/x dx For the integrand, sqrt(x^2+1)/x substitute x = tan(u) and dx = sec^2(u) du. Then sqrt(x^2+1) = sqrt(tan^2(u)+1) = sec(u) and u = tan^(-1)(x): = integral csc(u) sec^2(u) du For the integrand csc(u) sec^2(u), use the trigonometric identity sec^2(u) = tan^2(u)+1: = integral (tan^2(u)+1) csc(u) du Expanding the integrand (tan^2(u)+1) csc(u) gives csc(u)+tan(u) sec(u): = integral (csc(u)+tan(u) sec(u)) du Integrate the sum term by term: = integral csc(u) du+ integral tan(u) sec(u) du For the integrand tan(u) sec(u), substitute s = sec(u) and ds = tan(u) sec(u) du: = integral 1 ds+ integral csc(u) du The integral of csc(u) is -log(cot(u)+csc(u)): = integral 1 ds-log(cot(u)+csc(u)) The integral of 1 is s: = s-log(cot(u)+csc(u))+constant Substitute back for s = sec(u): = sec(u)-log(cot(u)+csc(u))+constant Substitute back for u = tan^(-1)(x): = sqrt(x^2+1)-log((sqrt(x^2+1)+1)/x)+constant An alternative form of the integral is: = sqrt(x^2+1)-csch^(-1)(x)+constant Which is equivalent for restricted x values to: = sqrt(x^2+1)-log(sqrt(x^2+1)+1)+log(x)+constant now you aply the limits u'll get the answer as 1.22
the book said by using trig substitution...
s this ur ans!!!!1
okay im kinda stuck, I'm at :\[\sqrt{3 - arcsec 2} - \sqrt{arcsec 1}\]
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+%28%28x^2+%2B+1%29^1%2F2%29%2Fx&x=5&y=7
shouldn't arc bet outside the sqr rt
wait a second...
okay so i tan theta - theta from 1 to 2 is what we are trying to solve
arccos(1/x)
yess from there you are correct
and tan theta = root x^2 - 1 and theta is arc sec x
so yes i messed up there
\[\sqrt{3} - arcsec 2 - acrsec 1\] is the answer?
i believeso let met check with my imaginary calculator... let me go get it
it doesn't come out right when i do it
i know tan theta - theta is correct
yeah same, I'm just not sure after that
you could always go into theta
what do you mean
x=sec(x) correct?
so 2 = sec(theta) and 1=sec(theta)
sec(theta) = x
will get you the limits in theta
find the angles in which sec(theta) =1 and 2
one will be when cos=1/2
other will be when cos =1
so 0 and pi/3
are your upper and lower
okay so then what is the equation?
if you switch the limits you don't have to take it out of theta
so tan(theta)-theta)]from 0 to pi/3
did your teacher ever teach you that? you can keep your u substitutions in u form if you plug x into your substitution
so root 3 - pi/3 is the answer?
i think that is right actually!
yes that looks right idk how she got 1.22
yeS!!!! you are the best
glad i was help
btw i believe the way i solved your other questions is the way your teacher wants you to solve it as in my book, trig integrals is right before trig substitution
and parts you probably don't even have a clue yet
okay thank you!
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