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OpenStudy (anonymous):
confused again here. it is
\[\log_3(21)\] or
\[\log(3^{21})\]
myininaya (myininaya):
lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nonsense
OpenStudy (anonymous):
utter bologna
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry, 3 log3 over 2.1
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myininaya (myininaya):
\[3\log(\frac{3}{2.1})?\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@myininaya,
\[3 \log(3)^{21}\neq3(21)\log(3)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[3\log_{3} 2.1\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok so now it is either a calculator exercise
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myininaya (myininaya):
what satellite?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
haha im trying to learn this equation editor
myininaya (myininaya):
\[\log_b(x^r)=rlog_b(x)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well you do not have a chance in hell of finding
\[\log_3(2.1)\] without the change of base formula and a calculator.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes myininaya you are correct NOW
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myininaya (myininaya):
i was correct earlier
myininaya (myininaya):
3^21=(3)^21
myininaya (myininaya):
and i'm still correct lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so it is true that
\[3 \log(3^{21})=3(21)\log(3)\]
but this
\[3 \log(3)^{21}=3(21)\log(3)\] is bullhokey
OpenStudy (anonymous):
bullhockey as well
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myininaya (myininaya):
so what if i didn't put the 21 inside
(3)^21=3^21
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well that is like saying
\[\sin(x^3)=\sin(x)^3\]
myininaya (myininaya):
usually you would write the first way
but they are the same
OpenStudy (anonymous):
makes a huge difference what is inside and what is out!
myininaya (myininaya):
\[(x^3)=(x)^3\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no no no no they are NOT the same
myininaya (myininaya):
\[\sin^3(x) \neq \sin(x^3)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\log(3)^4\] means take the log of 3, raise the result to the power of 4
myininaya (myininaya):
no it doesn't
myininaya (myininaya):
\[(\log(3))^4\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\log(3^4)\] means raise 3 to the power of 4, then take the log
myininaya (myininaya):
\[(\log(3))^4 \neq \log(3)^4\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
argh log is a function.
\[\log(x)=f(x)\]
myininaya (myininaya):
clearly the 4 in only on the three and not the whole thing
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\log(x^4)\neq f(x)^4\]
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myininaya (myininaya):
\[\log(x^4)=f(x^4)\]
myininaya (myininaya):
\[if f(x)=\log(x)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
clearly my foot. same reason you cannot be lazy and write
\[\sin x\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
as soon as you put parentheses around the argument, you mean take the function of that thing
myininaya (myininaya):
lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
and i said it! nyah nyah
myininaya (myininaya):
what else can we fight about
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hmmm
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\sin x\] vs
\[\sin(x)\]?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what is even worse is
\[\ln x\]
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myininaya (myininaya):
and satellite i know what you mean
i don't like it when my students write stuff like sin(x)^4
it does make no sense
i was trying to give you a hard time
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i know and i was trying to give you one back
myininaya (myininaya):
you are evil like me :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but in fact the convention
\[\sin^n(x)\] is actually very confusing to students
myininaya (myininaya):
sometimes i have to write it as
\[[\sin(x)]^n\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
continually remind them that it means
\[(\sin(x))^n\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
was there a problem here? i forget...
myininaya (myininaya):
i don't like all your parenthesis
myininaya (myininaya):
why don't you change it up a bit and use some bracketts
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh it was
\[3\log_3(2.1)\]
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myininaya (myininaya):
are you sure that was the problem?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
which is the same as
\[\frac{3\ln(2.1)}{\ln(3)}\] if you need the num ber
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no it wasn't clear probably because some idiot math teacher didn't write it correctly to begin with , like the one that said
\[\log(.01)^{10}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
which is either 1024 or -20 depending on how you interpret it