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OpenStudy (anonymous):

evaluate 3log3^21

OpenStudy (anonymous):

confused again here. it is \[\log_3(21)\] or \[\log(3^{21})\]

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nonsense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

utter bologna

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry, 3 log3 over 2.1

myininaya (myininaya):

\[3\log(\frac{3}{2.1})?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@myininaya, \[3 \log(3)^{21}\neq3(21)\log(3)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[3\log_{3} 2.1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so now it is either a calculator exercise

myininaya (myininaya):

what satellite?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha im trying to learn this equation editor

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\log_b(x^r)=rlog_b(x)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well you do not have a chance in hell of finding \[\log_3(2.1)\] without the change of base formula and a calculator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes myininaya you are correct NOW

myininaya (myininaya):

i was correct earlier

myininaya (myininaya):

3^21=(3)^21

myininaya (myininaya):

and i'm still correct lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it is true that \[3 \log(3^{21})=3(21)\log(3)\] but this \[3 \log(3)^{21}=3(21)\log(3)\] is bullhokey

OpenStudy (anonymous):

bullhockey as well

myininaya (myininaya):

so what if i didn't put the 21 inside (3)^21=3^21

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well that is like saying \[\sin(x^3)=\sin(x)^3\]

myininaya (myininaya):

usually you would write the first way but they are the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

makes a huge difference what is inside and what is out!

myininaya (myininaya):

\[(x^3)=(x)^3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no no no no they are NOT the same

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\sin^3(x) \neq \sin(x^3)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\log(3)^4\] means take the log of 3, raise the result to the power of 4

myininaya (myininaya):

no it doesn't

myininaya (myininaya):

\[(\log(3))^4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\log(3^4)\] means raise 3 to the power of 4, then take the log

myininaya (myininaya):

\[(\log(3))^4 \neq \log(3)^4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

argh log is a function. \[\log(x)=f(x)\]

myininaya (myininaya):

clearly the 4 in only on the three and not the whole thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\log(x^4)\neq f(x)^4\]

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\log(x^4)=f(x^4)\]

myininaya (myininaya):

\[if f(x)=\log(x)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

clearly my foot. same reason you cannot be lazy and write \[\sin x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as soon as you put parentheses around the argument, you mean take the function of that thing

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and i said it! nyah nyah

myininaya (myininaya):

what else can we fight about

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin x\] vs \[\sin(x)\]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is even worse is \[\ln x\]

myininaya (myininaya):

and satellite i know what you mean i don't like it when my students write stuff like sin(x)^4 it does make no sense i was trying to give you a hard time

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know and i was trying to give you one back

myininaya (myininaya):

you are evil like me :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but in fact the convention \[\sin^n(x)\] is actually very confusing to students

myininaya (myininaya):

sometimes i have to write it as \[[\sin(x)]^n\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

continually remind them that it means \[(\sin(x))^n\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

was there a problem here? i forget...

myininaya (myininaya):

i don't like all your parenthesis

myininaya (myininaya):

why don't you change it up a bit and use some bracketts

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh it was \[3\log_3(2.1)\]

myininaya (myininaya):

are you sure that was the problem?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which is the same as \[\frac{3\ln(2.1)}{\ln(3)}\] if you need the num ber

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it wasn't clear probably because some idiot math teacher didn't write it correctly to begin with , like the one that said \[\log(.01)^{10}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which is either 1024 or -20 depending on how you interpret it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me guess. they "simplified" something

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