Find the derivative of f(x) = 1/2 (e^x + e^-x)
haha, i just did this in class today, just a second
do you want how to get it or just the answer?
If you want how to get it I will toss it into the software I have so you know step by step, just let me know. Heres the answer though: f'(x)=(e^(-x)(e^(2x)-1))/(2)
Could you show me how you got it.
sure, I just looked over it and we got it the same way, where is this problem from by the way?
f(x)=(1)/(2)*(e^(x)+e^(-x)) The derivative of f(x) is equal to f'(x)=(d)/(dx) (1)/(2)*(e^(x)+e^(-x)). f'(x)=(d)/(dx) (1)/(2)*(e^(x)+e^(-x)) Multiply the rational expressions to get ((e^(x)+e^(-x)))/(2). (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2) Find the derivative of the expression. (d)/(dx) (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2) The chain rule states that the derivative of a composite function (f o g)' is equal to (f' o g)*g'. To find the derivative of ((e^(x)+e^(-x)))/(2), find the derivatives of each portion of the function and use the chain rule formula. (d)/(du) (u)/(2)*(d)/(dx) e^(x)+e^(-x) To find the derivative of (u)/(2), multiply the base (u) by the exponent (1), then subtract 1 from the exponent (1-1=0). Since the exponent is now 0, u is eliminated from the term. (d)/(du) (u)/(2)=(1)/(2) The derivative of e^(x) is e^(x). This is true because (d)/(dx) a^(x)=a^(x)ln(a). In this case, the base is e and ln(e)=1, so the derivative is e^(x). (d)/(dx) e^(x)+e^(-x)=e^(x)+(d)/(dx) e^(-x) To find the derivative of -x, multiply the base (x) by the exponent (1), then subtract 1 from the exponent (1-1=0). Since the exponent is now 0, x is eliminated from the term. (d)/(dx) -x=-1 Using the chain rule, the derivative of e^(-x) is e^(-x)*-1. e^(-x)*-1 Multiply e^(-x) by -1 to get -e^(-x). -e^(-x) The derivative of e^(x)+e^(-x) is e^(x)-e^(-x). (d)/(dx) e^(x)+e^(-x)=e^(x)-e^(-x) Replace the variable u with e^(x)+e^(-x) in the expression. (d)/(du) (u)/(2)=(1)/(2) Replace the variable u with e^(x)+e^(-x) in the expression. e^(x)-e^(-x) Form the derivative by substituting the values for each portion into the chain rule formula. =(1)/(2)*(e^(x)-e^(-x)) Multiply the rational expressions to get ((e^(x)-e^(-x)))/(2). (d)/(dx) (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2)=(e^(x)-e^(-x))/(2) Factor out the GCF of e^(-1x) from the expression e^(x). (d)/(dx) (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2)=(e^(-1x)(e^(2x))-e^(-x))/(2) Factor out the GCF of e^(-1x) from the expression -e^(-x). (d)/(dx) (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2)=(e^(-1x)(e^(2x))+e^(-1x)(-1))/(2) Factor out the GCF of e^(-1x) from e^(x)-e^(-x). (d)/(dx) (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2)=(e^(-1x)(e^(2x)-1))/(2) Remove the -1 from -1x. (d)/(dx) (e^(x)+e^(-x))/(2)=(e^(-x)(e^(2x)-1))/(2) The derivative of the function is (e^(-x)(e^(2x)-1))/(2). f'(x)=(e^(-x)(e^(2x)-1))/(2)
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he asked how to get it, Ihave a software program that generate step by step...with detailed explanations. Makes it easier than typing it all..lol
why not \[\frac{1}{2}(e^x-e^{-x})\]
if that is what he means satellitethen it is just the integrall of sinh(x)
see. I thought about that, but my instructore earlier today worked the same exact problem, and this is the direction he went too. not sure whats up.
am i lost? maybe tired. but there is nothing easier than finding the derivative of \[e^x\] it is just \[e^x\] and likewise the derivative of \[e^{-x}\] is \[-e^{-x}\] so you are done right away
this does ask for "derivative" right? not "integral"
yes but e^x-e^-x/2 is an identity for sinh(x)
even this: f(x) = 1/2 (e^x + e^-x), see I agree with you. satellite
yes sir, derivative
so you could do dy/dx if the 1/2 is out in front
that is what i did, and then applied the chain rule
yes but if you knew that the identity e^x-e^-x /2 = sinh(x).. you could just do the dy/dx(sinh(x)) = cosh(x)
yes if you wanted to prove that it was true, this would be the proof
stick it to the teacher... make her thinkyou know more than what you should lmfao
s quick quesiton, is the way I did it right or wrong?
it seems like one step to me i suppose you use the "chain rule" to find the derivative of \[e^{-x}\]
i don't know it if is right or wrong but it is awfully long to read. the derivative of e^x is e^x the derivative of e^(-x) is -e^(-x) and the one half is a red herring
hey sat, if you don't mind, tell me exactly how come its one step? by the way, we haven't even made it to the chain rule in derrivvatives this semester, I just used it anyway.
nm, u just told mehaha
is this waht you have? \[\frac {dy}{dx}[\frac{1}{2(e^x-e^-x)}\]
if so you would have to use chain rule because you pull 1/2 out and then you are left with (e^x-e^-x)^-1
yes, thats it I think, I done put the notes away. i just posted all that to help him
we had another one like it, hold on ill pull it up, it was intense, but I don't think it was necessary to do everything we ddid in that one either.
or was it\[\frac{dy}{dx}[\frac{1}{2}e^x-e^-x]\]
you did it right lawnphysics since (e^(-x)(e^(2x)-1))/(2)=(e^x-e^(-x))/2 is an identity (verified by wolfram alpha) But outkast3r09 has a good point \[\Large \frac{1}{2}(e^x+e^{-x})=\cosh(x)\] and \[\Large \frac{d}{dx}(\cosh(x)) = \sinh(x)=\frac{1}{2}(e^x-e^{-x})\] So \[\Large \frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{1}{2}(e^x+e^{-x})\right)=\frac{1}{2}(e^x-e^{-x})\]
so if you can see this, then it saves a lot of work
i see both, thank you, that just helps me more. came in here to answer a question andlearned something too lol
^ yes and lawnphysics, this stuff isn't really taught until integrals but it would help to get reps in right now too instead of taking this beyond what it needs to be
yeah, but my instructor is hard core he don't like us using stuff outside of what he has alreadt tuahgt
and the derivative isn't that bad also pull out one half and simply use the additive property so you have 1/2(dy/dx[e^x)+dy/dx[e^-x) dy/dx[e^u]=e^u u' so your just going to get e^x-e^-x
here ill show you how to get it
i hate how slow this thing types, has anyone ever though about a chat service just to speed things uP?
See what you think of this one outkast3r09
here ill show you how to get it \[\frac{dy}{dx}[\frac{1}{2}(e^x-e^-x)=\frac{1}{2}[\frac{dy}{dx}e^x-\frac{dy}{dx}e^-x]\]
\[\frac{dy}{dx}[e^u]=e^uu'\]
then simply solve
now i know why he did it the way he did, the directions specifically say to use product or quotient rule then rewrite algebraically and apply quotient rule
but knowing easier ways makes me happy anyway haha
@jimthompson i must be getting tired, but what is the work in finding the derivative of e^x?
dy/dx[e^u] = e^u u'
I was referring to the lengthy steps lawnphysics wrote out
so e^x is simple e^x
and e^-x will be -e^-x
i didn't write them out, Calculus solved did
oh i see
oh ok. still don't even see the need for sinh or cosh. it is two seconds to solve. the only tiny sophistication is knowing that the derivative of \[e^{-x}\] is \[-e^{-x}\]
because it's much easier to just know that it's sinh(x) because the dy/dx of it is simple... +cosh(x)
i use it to quickly find steps if I ever get stuck on a problem, not to cheat like most people. it helps if your working at 3am and there is no one to call haha
and in that case you know that it's going to equal simple 1/2(e^x+e^-x)
hey sat, do you use any instant messenging services?
@outcast, why is the derivative of sinh cosh? because the derivative you just found shows it
no not really. google chat sometimes
i just use trillian, i hate how slow this things types haha
the derivatives of hyperbolic functions are positive while their inverses are not i believe
btw for your question lawnphysics the easier way (to me) is to write your denominator as (t^2-1)^-1
and use the product rule
you mean chain rule?
well, the thing you have to rememver outkast, is we have only learned basic der. in class right now we are stuck using the basics. i understand there are better ways to do it too. can't want to be allowed to. i think ders. are freaking crazy fun
\[\frac{d}{dt}[\frac{xt-4}{t^2-x}]=\frac{d}{dt}[(xt-4)(t^2-x)^{-1}\]
jim, you would have to use the chain ffor the second part
i just personally despise the quotient rule
i must be looking at the wrong part
oh ok I see now
here, i despised it so much, i just took pictures of the board because I didn't want to write it down...here is what we did...i will post them...haha
does anyone want to see them?
i think i'm alright so did you need help on that ?
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nope, i was just saying thats how I learned to do the other one the original poster solved. and thats why I went that way with it
just having a discusion about it with ya :)
Christ almighty. What a lot of heat for so little light. @Sat73 is the one with the neon light here.
well i think that the question was different from the question we answered still
thnx. i thought i was losing my mind
people need to use the equation editor
because if the e's are in the bottom the problem becomes much longer like his teachers
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