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OpenStudy (anonymous):

need help on the attachement

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the second derivitive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

take the first derivitve.. 2x+4y second 2+4 = 6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does that make sense ta?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you start with \[2x+4yy'=0\] \[y'=-\frac{x}{2y}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it doesn't make sense. you are looking for the second derivative wrt x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, i was wrong.. thanks satellite..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok now we take the derivative again using the quotient rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 2y^(2)+x^(2)/2y^(3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when taking the second derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me write it with paper so i don't screw up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok a first step is \[-\frac{1}{2}\frac{y-xy'}{y^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so replace \[y'=-\frac{x}{2y}\] and i will do the algebra on paper as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i didn't mess up the algebra i get \[-\frac{1}{2}\frac{2y^2+x^2}{2y^3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or if you prefer \[-\frac{2y^2+x^2}{4y^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks like you got the same thing exactly but maybe forgot the \[-\frac{1}{2}\] out front when you simplified it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oops! Can't forget negative, lol. However on the answer choices have -1/2y^(2) why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also why is the top of numerator still 2y^(2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't know.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me write it out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we will start with \[-\frac{1}{2}\frac{y-xy'}{y^2}\] ok?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then \[-\frac{1}{2}\frac{y-x\frac{-x}{2y}}{y^2}\] \[-\frac{1}{2}\frac{y+x\frac{x}{2y}}{y^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then multiply numerator and denominator by \[2y\] to clear the fraction and get \[-\frac{1}{2}\frac{2y^2+x^2}{2y^3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then perhaps \[-\frac{2y^2+x^2}{4y^3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but can't you cancel 2 and the 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is always possible that i made an algebra mistake, but it looks good to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here the answer choices

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see what you are asking. no you cannot for the same reason that \[\frac{2\times 5+7}{4\times 3}\neq \frac{5+7}{2\times 3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol i wasn't thinking. ok look at the original equation, and our answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is the answer \[-\frac{2y^2+x^2}{4y^3}\] right? but the original equation was \[x^2+2y^2=2\] so our numerator is a big fat 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

very tricky...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we get \[-\frac{2}{4y^3}=-\frac{1}{2y^3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

damn i still don't see that answer on your choices. am i missing one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah this was actually the first answer choice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why would they do that trick?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to get on your last nerve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its should be the previous answer, lol

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