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OpenStudy (aravindg):

prove that equations cos(sin x)=sin(cos x) does not possess real roots

OpenStudy (jamesj):

We're going to show that cos (sinx) - sin (cosx) > 0 <=> cos (sinx) - cos ( π/2 - cosx ) > 0 <=> 2 sin [ (π/4) + (1/2). (sinx - cosx) ].sin [ (π/4) - (1/2). (sinx - cosx) ] > 0 -- (**)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Now if we can show the two terms in sin are positive we're done.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Note first by the trig identity from the last problem that I sinx - cosx I = I √2 sin (x-π/4) I ≤ √2 < π/2

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Thus π/2 < ( sinx - cosx ) < π/2 => - π/4 < ( sinx - cosx )/2 < π/4 So 0 < π/4 + (1/2) ( sinx - cosx ) < π/2 And therefore sin [ (π/4) + (1/2). (sinx - cosx) ] > 0 This is the first sin term above

OpenStudy (jamesj):

You can go through a similar procedure for the second term. Hence sin [ (π/4) + (1/2). (sinx - cosx) ].sin [ (π/4) - (1/2). (sinx - cosx) ] > 0 and therefore cos (sinx) - sin (cosx) > 0 Thus there are no real roots of cos(sin x) = sin(cos x)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

*** I'm not crazy about this proof, as it seems a bit clunky. I'll let you know if I think of something better.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

any better answer??

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Right now, no ... This is a high school question?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

yaa

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Tricky. You've 17, yes?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

yes

OpenStudy (jamesj):

That's what I thought. Anyway, if I think of something better, I'll let you know, but for now, this is what I've got.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

wt abt first method u told using graph?????

OpenStudy (jamesj):

No, it doesn't work the way I hoped it would. I can see it intuitively, but I can't write down a good proof.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

For the record, if you haven't looked at a graph of the function, here it is: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos%28sin+x%29+-+sin%28cos+x%29

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Ok ... now I'm going downstairs to the Starbucks in the building and finally getting that coffee!

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