integral 1 to 9 (x-1)/ sqrt x dx
rmalik, this is the 5th or 6th integration problem you've posted. This one is solved in the same way as all the others.
write as two fractions
So I suggest you go back first and make sure you understand the solutions to all those other problems. If you do, you'll have no problem with one.
but its difficult...how..i know sqrt x is x^1/2
Yes, so \[\frac{x-1}{\sqrt{x}} = x^{1/2} - x^{-1/2}\]
So now, if you understand the other problems, you should know how to integrate this.
but what happens with the numerator?
\[\frac{x-1}{\sqrt{x}} = \frac{x}{\sqrt{x}} - \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}\]
Now, \[\sqrt{x} = x^{1/2}\] and \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} = \frac{1}{x^{1/2}} = x^{-1/2}
\[\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} = \frac{1}{x^{1/2}} = x^{-1/2}\]
So that is how I changed the function you are integrating into the form a few posts above
Now ... let me ask you this. In general, what is \[\int\limits x^p \ dx\] where p is not -1 ?
what is this indefinite integral?
all of your exercises have depended on this integral
x^2/2
That's right for p = 1. But what about p in general
i dont know
Right, so to get to that answer, can you tell me what is the derivative of x^n? \[\frac{d \ }{dx} x^n\]
nx
Not quite.
or would it be x^n+1
not quite
if you dont want to help me dont bother
\[\frac{d \ }{dx} x^n = nx^{n-1}\]
I am helping you. Be patient. Do you recognize this formula?
yes
Right. Now, integration is "anti-differentiation", so what is the integral of x^{n-1} \[\int\limits x^{n-1} dx\]
i.e., what function when differentiated gives x^(n-1) ?
but im not understanding the problem i asked...since its x^1/2-x^-1/2...then i solve the integral which would be 1^1/2-1^-1/2-9^1/2-9^-1/2
In general, for p not equal to -1 \[\int\limits x^p \ dx = \frac{1}{p+1} x^{p+1} + C\]
And that is because \[\frac{d \ }{dx} x^{p+1} = (p+1) x^p\]
So now, with that formula you can calculate \[\int\limits (x^{1/2} - x^{-1/2}) \ dx \]
yes like i showed above is that how i would do it?
No, what you wrote above was wrong. That's why I took back into the basics here so you would understand why.
Using the integration formula above for x^p, what is \[\int\limits x^{1/2} \ dx\] ?
3x^2/3/2
p = 1/2 so the integral is \[\frac{1}{1 + 1/2} x^{1 + 1/2} = \frac{1}{3/2} x^{3/2} = \frac{2}{3} x^{3/2}\]
o i had it the wrong way
What now is \[\int\limits x^{-1/2} \ dx\]
hold on i will write on paper first
it would be 2x^1/2?
Yes.
ok cool now please help with next steps i think i get it now
So now you know how to do \[\int\limits_1^9 \frac{x -1}{\sqrt{x}} \ dx\]
wait wait wait....so heres what i am doing....
im sorry i dont
what is the indefinite integral? \[\int\limits \frac{x-1}{\sqrt{x}} dx\] ?
2x^1/2?
so i would just plug in the intrgral og 0 to 9?
If that were right, then the derivative of (2x^(1/2)) would be the function we're trying to integrate. But it's not. The derivative of (2x^(1/2)) is just x^(-1/2)
What is the function we're trying to integrate?
i really dont understand and im serious
We are trying to integrate the function \[\frac{x-1}{\sqrt{x}}\]
Now, as it stands, that's not a function we can deal with. So we figure out how to write in terms of things we understand.
you said its = to x^1/2=x^-1/2
\[\frac{x-1}{\sqrt{x}} = \frac{x-1}{x^{1/2}} = \frac{x}{x^{1/2}} - \frac{1}{x^{1/2}}\]
And we can simplify that further \[\frac{x}{x^{1/2}} - \frac{1}{x^{1/2}} = x^{1-1/2} - x^{-1/2} = x^{1/2} - x^{-1/2}\]
Do understand everything I just did?
so it becomes x^1/2-x^-1/2..dx which result to become (2x^3/2)/3-2x^1/2
Yes
then i compute the intergral??
Yes
FINALLY!!!!!! haha
Tell me when you have the answer.
so it would be...well no answer yet...im up to (2^3/2)/3-(2^1/2)-(54/3)-6..im not sure if that's right
Ok. Let's make sure agree on the indefinite integral \[\int\limits x^{1/2} - x^{-1/2} \ dx = \frac{2}{3} x^{3/2} - 2 x^{1/2} \ ( \ + C \ )\]
yes
So now if you want the definite integral from x = 1 to 9, substitute x=9 of this expression minus x = 1 of this expression. What do you get when you substitute x = 1?
(2(1)^3/2)/3-2(1)^1/2= 2/3 -2?
yes ... which is ....?
-4/3?
of course.
Now, what is the integral evaluated at x = 9?
well i got 54/3-6
(54/3)-6?
which simplifies to ...
35/3?
which is 40/3?
No ... 54 = 9 x 6 = 18 x 3 Hence 54/3 = 18
Right. The definite integral is equal to 40/3.
That is the final answer.
ok wonderfull thanks sooooooooooooooooooooooo much!!
So now, do yourself a favor. Take a blank piece of paper and work the entire problem again from the beginning. Then take another piece of blank piece of paper and work the entire problem without looking at the first piece or our discussion here. When you can do that, then you really understand this problem.
ok great help thanks agian
Also, go back and look at the other questions you've asked and make sure you understand the solutions.
ok ... good luck.
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