prove (A\B) ^ (C\D)= (A^C)\ (B^D)
\[(\frac{A}{B})^\frac{C}{D}=\frac{A^\frac{C}{D}}{B^\frac{C}{D}}\]
oh completely sorry...this is for real analysis
can you get me more details on this notation you used
what is A,B,C and D?
the \ is "compliment" and the ^ is "intersection"
oh
and A,B,C,D are subsets of universal set U
compliment: my understanding is that means elements not in do you mean A-B
yeah that is the general notation, for some reason my book uses \
ok so i'm going try to prove \[(A-B) \cap (C-D)=(A \cap C)-(B \cap D)\]
correct
ok let me look at it for a few
well first of all you know we have two ways to go to prove the equality we have to prove each is a subset of the other
if you have any advice for me on this course too i would appreciate it, im struggiling
what text are you using?
Analysis with an introduction to proof by Steven R. Lay
hey satellite tell me if i'm thinking right i'm a bit tired...
if x is an element of A-B, then x is an element of A but not B right?
i think this sounds right
right
ok i have the first part one sec
you got it i think. do it element wise
suppose \[x \in (A-B) \cap (C-D) => x \in A-B \& x \in C-D\]
true
\[=> x \in A and x \not{\in} B \& x \in C and x \not{\in} D\]
my problem is this is the first time having 4 sets, can't draw a venn diagram and don't know how to do the proof
now we have to go the other way
satellite be my guest
but x is not an element of B
\[=>x \in (A \cap C)-(B \cap D)\]
oh ok
there happy lol
\[(A-B) \cap (C-D)=(A \cap C)-(B \cap D)\] \[(A\cap C)-(A\cap D)-(B \cap C)-(B\cap D)=(A \cap C)-(B \cap D)\] hmmmm
do the logic rules apply to sets?
yes they do
i have to say i am struggling with the other way.
i think this other way is a bit more trickier
lol
you have a few cases you have to consider going the other way
\[(A-B) \cap (C-D)=(A \cap C)-(B \cap D)\] is that first one (A or notB) ? is that first one (A not B) ? is that first one (A and notB) ?
you get to a part in the proof where you have y is not an element of B intersect D this could mean that y is not in both sets this could mean y is in one set but not the other
these are the two cases that i see to consider
or is (A-B) mean (A n C n D)?
\[A-B=\{x \in A| x \not{\in} B\}\]
isn't \[A-B=A\cap B^c\]?
yes the first one is A not B
you mean the difference of the sets A and B?
and satellite yes I think that is right, B superscript c is U/B
then i think that would make life easier
no just that (A-B)=A not B
lol .... just trying to understand what its saying to begin with seems to be a challange
\[A-B=\{x\in A| x\not{\in} B\}\]
copy cat
which to me means \[\{x|x\in A, x\not{\in}B\}=A\cap B^c\]
anyone consider it to be false? can we give a counter example?
yes A intersect not B but i can't figure out what A not B means
well mathty there has to be a counterexample since going the other way y may not be in B but in D or the other way around so i bet i can come up with one
So, x is an element of A and notB; and element of C and notD is equivalent to saying: x is an element of A and D, but not an element of B and C
A not B means all the elements that are in A and not B, if you draw a venn diagram you will see that a and b overlap
ok i know what A and not B means i just didn't know what A not B means
of course, how you draw a venn diagram for 4 sets, Im not sure
i am thinking maybe the reason it is hard is that it is not right, x is an elem|dw:1317865038621:dw|
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