Find the Derivative of F when: F(x)= (f(x)+2x)/(f(x)-2x)
since you are not given f, your answer must have an f' in it correct?
yes
then you need the quotient rule for this. \[(\frac{h}{k})'=\frac{kh'-hk'}{k^2}\] with \[h(x)=f(x)+2x, h'(x)=f'(x)+2, k(x)=f(x)-2x, k'(x)=f'(x)-2\]
so your denominator will be \[(f(x)-2x)^2\]
numerator will be \[(f(x)-2)\times (f'(x)+2)-(f(x)+2)\times (f'(x)-2)\] then algebra to clean it up
with quotient rule i get (f(x)-2x)(f'x+2)-(f(x)+2x))(f'x-2))/(f(x)-2))^2 but it want it simplified and im having trouble
make your life easy and replace \[f(x)=y, f'(x)=y'\] should make algebra look simpler
alright thanks again!
for my answer choices its factoring out either a 2 or a 4 in the numerator
\[(y-2x)(y'+2)-(y+2x)(y'-2)\] \[yy'+2y-2xy'-4x-(yy'-2y+2xy'-4x)\]
\[yy'+2y-2xy'-4x-yy'+2y-2xy'+4x\]
looks like we are left with nothing but \[4y-4xy'\]
or if you prefer \[4(y-xy)'\] or even \[4(f(x)-xf'(x))\]
ok i think i got it now
check my algebra because i am doing it as i type, so i might have made an error, but i think it is right
would you mind helping me with one last one?
go ahead, i will help if i can
find the derivative of: y=(cosx-1)/(sinx)
this should be ok
I derived it but cant simplify it in terms of their answer choices
\[y'=\frac{\sin(x)\times (-\sin(x))-(\cos(x)-1)\times \cos(x))}{\sin^2(x)}\] is a start
now we work in the numerator and get \[-\sin^2(x)-\cos^2(x)+\cos(x)\] if i am not mistaken
and since \[\sin^2(x)+\cos^2(x)=1\] we have \[-\sin^2(x)-\cos^2(x)=-1\] so it looks like we get \[\frac{\cos(x)-1}{\sin^2(x)}\]
we can go further i think
I got up to that point but all of my answer choices have a 1 in the numerator
since \[\sin^2(x)=1-\cos^2(x)=(1-\cos(x))(1+\cos(x))\]
so we have \[\frac{\cos(x)-1}{(1-\cos(x))(1+\cos(x))}\] and \[\frac{\cos(x)-1}{1-\cos(x)}=-1\] we get \[\frac{-1}{1+\cos(x)}\] or maybe \[-\frac{1}{1+\cos(x)}\]
Thank you so much, you were very helpful!
there are many ways you can write this yw
my big problem is sometimes I don't recognize some of the trig identities and it makes it very difficult to simplify. Thank You.
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