help!!! 5x+7y=-1 -2y+3z=9 7x-z=27
x=4 y=-3 z=1
you used rref ?
okay..i need to know how to do them...
wats rref..this is scaring me...
techno how did you solve it
rref? i don't know what he means by that. But the answer will be...x=4 y=-3 and z=1
how did you solve it
okay...but how?
plz dunt say "i dunt noe? i used mental math"
First work on an equation to solve, and then you plug in a variable and you plug it back for the other equation.
but whadda bout in this case..wad do i do first? and hw did u do it so fast?
I got an A in it...it's simple.
ughh..dunt say its simple...i suck at it and i got a C- in alg 2 rite now...
ok lets use strategy
lol ok
yes plz..i really need a stragety...to do dis problem and the other zillion
the two main strategies are elimination and substitution
okay...
substitution might be faster here, dunno. we can do both ways. ok for elimination we want it to look like this first
go on...
5x+7y + 0z = -1 0x -2y+3z = 9 7x+0y -z = 27
okay....
wat next?
lets call them equation 1, 2, 3, . the general strategy is , eliminate x from equation 1 and 2 , (using their lcm) then eliminate x from equations 1 and 3 (using lcm and subtracting each other )
that leaves you with two equations in two unknowns ( y and z )
ohhh...i was so confused about the missing x in one of the equations...LOL
so equation 1 and 2 are 5x+7y + 0z = -1 0x -2y+3z = 9 unfortunately we cant eliminate x here though because second equation has a 0 in front of x
so lets eliminate x from equations 1 and 3 , you follow so far>
so we can skip the first step
kk.im following...
we will eliminate x from equation 1 and 3 : 5x+7y + 0z = -1 7x+0y -z = 27
the lcm is 35 , so multiply each other by the missing factor
kk
(7)(5x+7y + 0z) = (-1)(7) -5(7x+0y -z) = (27)
leaving with 35x+49y+5z=-7 -35-5y-5z=-135
(7)(5x+7y + 0z) = (-1)(7) -5(7x+0y -z) = -5 (27)
i used -5 because then we can just add
35 x + 49 y + 0z = -7 -35 x + 0y +5xz = -27*5
me too...
how is it 5xz thou?
typo
oh...
isnt it also 5y thou?
yes typo
lol..i thought i was wrong...
35 x + 49 y + 0z = -7 -35 x + 0y +5z = -27*5
but wait..isnt it also 5y?
oh wait...nevermind...
ok i added them and got 49y + 5z = (-7 - 135)
now wad do i do?
now you have two equations in y and z
49 y + 5z = -142 -2y + 3z = 9
so u eliminate one of the variables wit tat equation and the second one?
yes, you can now eliminate z or y
im thinking the z's rite..cuz tay are smaller numbers
it looks easier to eliminate z because lcm of 5 and 3 is 15
yea...
so once you find what y is, you back substitute
but wait tat cant work....
Here's how to do it using elimination. Ugly numbers...but you get the right answer: This is how to do elimination. It's very methodical, so you have less of a chance getting confused. 5x+7y=-1 -2y+3z=9 7x-z=27 rewrite, using only the coefficients (always in the order x y z) 5 7 0 -1 0 -2 3 9 7 0 -1 27 Now make all the numbers below 5 zero, by multiplying the top row by a number and adding to the row. Here row 2 already has a zero. For row 3, multiply the top row by -7/5 and add to row3. (We pick -7/5 because -7/5 times the 5 in the first row= -7 and -7 +7 in the 3rd row is zero) Here -7/5*(5 7 0 -1 )= (-7 -9.8 0 1.4) 5 7 0 -1 <-- leave alone 0 -2 3 9 <-- leave alone 7 0 -1 27 <-- add (-7 -9.8 0 1.4) (comes from -7/5 times 1st row) 5 7 0 -1 0 -2 3 9 0 -9.8 -1 28.4 now use the 2nd row, 2nd number, and make everything below it zero so multiply the 2nd row by -9.8/2 = -4.9. We get -4.9*(0 -2 3 9)= (0 9.8 -14.7 -44.1) 5 7 0 -1 <-- leave alone 0 -2 3 9 <-- leave alone 0 -9.8 -1 28.4 <-- add (0 9.8 -14.7 -44.1) 5 7 0 -1 <-- leave alone 0 -2 3 9 <-- leave alone 0 0 -15.7 -15.7 Now back substitute: the last line means -15.7z= -15.7, and z= 1 the 2nd line means -2y + 3z= 9 with z=1, we find y= -3 Finally, 5x+7y= -1, with y= -3, we have x= 4
wow...
wat a long reply...its been an hour...
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