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OpenStudy (anonymous):

solve for x... (let me type it as an equation)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y=(10^{x}+10^{-x})\div8\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can do this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply by 8 to get \[8y=10^x+10^{-x}\] multiply both sides by \[10^x\] so get \[8y\times 10^x=10^{2x}+1\] put all terms on one side get \[10^{2x}-8y\times 10^x+1=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then you have a quadratic equation in \[10^x\] in other words you can thing of this as \[z^2-8yz+1=0\] and you can solve it using the quadratic formula with \[a=1,b=-8y, c = 1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you get \[z=\frac{8y\pm\sqrt{64y^2-4}}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got that and then simplifited to... x= 4y + (12y^2-1)^)(1/2) (only positive answer exists because of the rules of logs) i'm doing this question online, and when i input this answer, it doesn't seem to work. :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can simplify this radical because \[z=\frac{8y\pm\sqrt{64y^2-4}}{2}=\frac{8y+2\sqrt{16y^2-1}}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the 12 is a mistake

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh my god

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i've been on this problem forever!! hahaha thank you so much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we are not done yet though right? you have to take the log

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are solving for x, not 10^x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then it'll be x = log(4y+(16y-1)^(1/2)) right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you get \[x=\log(4y+\sqrt{16y^2-1})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

damn that 12!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually that answer doesn't work...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

crap why not...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wait!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wait nothing. hmm. inside the radical is the difference of two squares, not a perfect square

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

something might be wrong with the program?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me check with wolfram

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok do you have an option for \[\pm\]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe that is the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't, it asks for a comma separate list (if there is more than one answer)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok then you have to put in both

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the negative in front of the square root should't work right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh no that would be ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4y - (16y^2 - 1) < 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because \[16y^2-1<16y^2\] and \[\sqrt{16y^2}=4y\] so \[\sqrt{16y^2-1}<4y\] so \[0<4y-\sqrt{16y^2-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you really are a legend

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in simple english the root is less than 4y, so when you subtract it is still positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try that and see. if it still doesn't work, i am stuck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

confident that the answer is right, but stuck as to how to put it in. and thanks for the compliment :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it works. thank so much!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i ask another question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(lol sorry)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hope it is an easy one!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

farthest i got is... (where e^(4x) = u) 0= u^2 - yu^2 + y - 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good god,hold on i will try it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where did you get the "e" from?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's part of the equation. maybe i don't understand your question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you see the picture?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(i just substituted for u, to make it easier to type onto here)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the one i see says \[y=\frac{10^{4x}-10^{4x}}{10^{4x}+10^{4x}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm sorry that's a similar question. what i meant to attach was this picture

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so far i got to \[y(10^{4x}+1)=10^{4x}-1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do they both work the same way?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(same steps?)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would get \[y(e^{4x}-1)=e^{4x}+1\] right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no that is wrong, should be \[e^{8x}\] sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but how can i solve for x from there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh this one is loads easier

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok we have \[y(e^{8x}-1)=e^{8x}+1\] correct me if i make a mistake

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply out to get \[ye^{8x}-y=e^{8x}+1\] then \[ye^{8x}-e^{8x}=y+1\] factor to get \[e^{8x}(y-1)=y+1\] divide and get \[e^{8x}=\frac{y+1}{y-1}\] two more steps and you are done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[8x=\ln(\frac{y+1}{y-1})\]and so \[x=\frac{1}{8}\ln(\frac{y+1}{y-1})\] or maybe they want \[x=\frac{1}{8}(\ln(y+1)-\ln(y-1))\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

check my algebra because it is late, but i think that is right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow... what was screwing me up was i was trying to make it a quadratic equation. i completely get it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's right :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah that is why i said it was easier!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

webassign?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ugh yes it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

have fun, and good night

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much! and for staying with me for 20 min

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you too, thanks again!

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