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OpenStudy (anonymous):

need help on attachment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well we know f(a)=f(b)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and its is continuse on the interval [0,6]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and since it is contiuose on that interval then it also is differntiable in the interval (0,6)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its xsqrt(6-x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the only thing we have to determime the citical values of the function or at what value the derivative is zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

have you dtermined the derivaitve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no that just what the original function is, but the attachment didn't show the minus sign inside the square root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, well then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but do you understand that you have to get the derivaitve of this function first and can you do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, then why did you post this question if you know how to do it already?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just know if I doing right, so I got 3(4-x)/2sqrt(6-x) for the derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks good to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now all you have to do is find that "C" that makes the derivaitve 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so how would you do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, the derivative is zero when: 3(4-x)=0, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes so x=4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about the bottom 2sqrt(6-x) is that x=6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we dont concern ourselves with when the denominator is zero, because that would result make the derivative undefined

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its undefined at x=6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

also if you think about it logicallly none of your choices has a 6 in it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so when finding the critical points we are only concern with the numerator, correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when finding the critical point we concern ourselves with when the derivative is zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but when the critical point is on denominator its undefined always, but do we still count it as a critical point?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, critical points are those points where f'(x) if 0 or f'(x) is undefined

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, but since this problem is rolle theorem problem its what f'(X) to be 0 and exist

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and not be f'(x) to be undefined

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, thats why i said we concern ourselves with only when the numerator was zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if we had been taking in account when the denomintor was zero, then the question would not have been asking us to verify rolles theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so just something of topic is the derivative of f(X)=cosx-sin^2(x), is f'(x)=-sinx(2cosx+1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops I meant off topic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but in general, when you get to the first derivaitve test then you do need to take into account when the derivative is undefined

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it should be : -sin(x)-2(sin(x))(cos(x))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what would the critical points be on a closed interval from 1, 2pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would say pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops! I meant closed interval from 0, 2pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and 2pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah would it be pi/3, pi, 5pi/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0,pi,2pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you dont believe me plug in the values you have evaluate the derivaitve ans see if you get zero at those values

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i cant open it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you open now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like i said thoug, you have to find when those trig functions are zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or when that derivaitve results in zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

set the derivaitve to zero and find the critical points

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 0,pi, and 2pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that not one of the answer choices listed on the attachment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay i got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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