limit as x approaches 1+ ((1/x-1)-(1/lnx))
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 1^+} (\frac{1}{x}-1-\frac{1}{\ln(x)}) \]
i think it is \[\lim_{x\rightarrow 1^+}\frac{1}{x-1}-\frac{1}{\ln(x)}\]
but i could be wrong for sure
it is up to interpretation i believe its like art
i know it is equal to -1/2, but I'm not sure of the steps.
would you like to tell us what the problem is? does satellite have it right?
it would help if we knew it was what i wrote or what myininaya wrote, because they are different
sorry! what satellite wrote. damn typos...
i get \[-\frac{1}{2}\]
start with \[\frac{\ln(x)-x+1}{x\ln(x)-\ln(x)}\] then use l'hopital twice
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 1^+}\frac{\ln(x)-(x-1)}{\ln(x) \cdot (x-1)}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 1^+}\frac{\ln(x)-x+1}{x \ln(x)-\ln(x)}\] since if we plug in 1 we get 0/0 we can use lhospital \[=\lim_{x \rightarrow 1}\frac{\frac{1}{x}-1}{\ln(x)+x \cdot \frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x}}\] \[=\lim_{x \rightarrow 1}\frac{\frac{1}{x}-1}{\ln(x)-\frac{1}{x}+1}\] we can do it again since we have 0/0 again \[=\lim_{x \rightarrow 1}\frac{\frac{-1}{x^2}}{\frac{1}{x}-\frac{-1}{x^2}} =\lim_{x \rightarrow 1}\frac{-1}{x+1}\]
=-1/2
yikes
thanks so so much.
at step two feel free to multiply top and bottom by x to turn \[=\lim_{x \rightarrow 1}\frac{\frac{1}{x}-1}{\ln(x)-\frac{1}{x}+1}\] into \[\frac{1-x}{x\ln(x)+x-1}\] then use l'hopital again
why i don't have to use product rule with mine after that one step
myininaya usually loves to clear fractions and i do not. we traded places this time
i like to avoid product rule when i can and just do simple derivatives where power rule is only thing involved
yeah but you already found the derivative of \[x\ln(x)\] in the line above so you get it for free! it is not like it changed from one line to the next
lol
it requires more writing though so it does cost
and no one uses the power rule to find the derivative of \[\frac{1}{x}\] it is like using a calculator to multiply by 5
i wish zarkon was here so he could agree with me
you could always just delete my post
my way is easiest! i win!
my way is easiest.... you win anyway
good game
you two are too funny
who wins zarkon?
i do of course
no!
(the arrogance!)
a solid tie
no way!
that's what the score card says. I only report what the cards say
rubber match tomorrow
it doesn't matter to you which one: (xln(x))' or (1/x)' :( power rule is easiest!
product rule requires more writing
if you know the taylor expansion at x=1 for the ln(x) the solution it pretty short
lol
goodnight zarkon
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