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OpenStudy (aravindg):

what is difference between rational no and irrational no?? @Physics

OpenStudy (aravindg):

?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

plz giv example

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a rational number can is the ratio of two natural numbers, and a irrational can't be written in this form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4/3 is a rational , and pi is irrational

OpenStudy (aravindg):

example plzz

OpenStudy (aravindg):

why???

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i can represent pi as 22/7???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here's a more precise exemple is square root of 2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Rational numbers are any whole numbers, or numbers with terminating decimals (1/2, 3/4, 7, 1932, etc.). Irrational numbers are numbers such as the square root of a non perfect square. Or 1/3. 1/3=.3 repeating. It never ends, so it is irrational.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

confused

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A short proof of this result is to obtain it from rational root theorem, that if p(x) is a monic polynomial with integer coefficients, then any rational root of p(x) is necessarily an integer. Applying this to the polynomial p(x) = x2 − 2, it follows that √2 is either an integer or irrational. Because √2 is not an integer (2 is not a perfect square), √2 must therefore be irrational. thanks wiki

OpenStudy (aravindg):

so what is 2.5436523768?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you can find two numbers such that p/q = 2.5436523768 then it's a rational number

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i thought it is surely rational!!

OpenStudy (aravindg):

??

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ie multiply and divide by two lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is because it has a finite number of decimals

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not by 2 but by 10^10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that you have 25436523768 / 10^10

OpenStudy (aravindg):

shalll i finalize that irrational nos have non ending decimal places??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, but it is not sufficient to say that they are irrational because 4/3 = 0.3333333" and it's a rational number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so do rational numbers

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh i am confused how i differentiate both??

OpenStudy (aravindg):

:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

go from the definition. a rational number is any number that can be written as \[\frac{a}{b}, a, b \in \mathbb Z\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

an irrational number therefore is any number that CANNOT be so written

OpenStudy (aravindg):

hey then opi must be rational i can write itr as 22/7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am not sure what you mean. opi?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's an approximation of pi (a bad one)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if it were true that \[\pi=\frac{22}{7}\] then yes, it would be rational. but it is not

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh so real line contains both rational anad irrational nos???

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\pi \text{ cannot be written as an integerover an integer soit is irrational}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it does an betwen each 2 rational number ther's an irrational number , and vice-verca

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@myininaya i guess you would know from your cute avatar (or whatever that is) could you imagine having it be \[\Huge \color {red} {\frac{22}{7}}\] instead?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

giv me some more examples of rational nos

myininaya (myininaya):

i hate rational numbers i like being irrational

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the e number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any number you know basically. any ratio of two integers, or any integer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

e number is irrational

OpenStudy (aravindg):

?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

srry giv example of irrational nos

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{a}\] if a is not a perfect square

OpenStudy (aravindg):

is root -a irrAtional???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

√2 , and φ the golden number

OpenStudy (aravindg):

when a not perfect square??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

All terminating decimals are rational numbers, because by multiplying and dividing by an appropriate power of 10, they can be written as ratios, e.g. 0.235 x 1000/1000 = 235/1000. All nonterminating decimals that consist of a repeating pattern, eg. 0.33333.... or 0.142857142857... are also rational numbers, again because by a slightly more complicated algorithm they can also be written as ratios, e.g. x = 0.33333..... 10x = 3.3333..... 9x = 3.3333.... - 0.3333.... = 3 x = 3/9 = 1/3. What is left, e.g. decimals that do not terminate or consist of a repeating pattern, are irrational numbers. Pi, e, and the square roots of numbers that are not perfect squares the most common examples, but there are an infinite number of irrational numbers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

|dw:1319492622419:dw| rational: repeating decimal irrational= non-repeating decimal

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