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OpenStudy (aravindg):

james u thr? @Physics

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Hi there Mr. Sunglasses

OpenStudy (aravindg):

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OpenStudy (aravindg):

wel i am back with a new topic

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ready to help?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Post the question and let's see

OpenStudy (aravindg):

before that i hav a small doubt how to find LCM AND HCF???

OpenStudy (jamesj):

There's different algorithms. For me the easiest way is to write the numbers in their prime factorizations. For instance, suppose we had to calculate the LCM of 36 and 10. Well, \( 36 = 2^2 . 3^2 \) and \( 10 = 2^1 . 5^1 \). The LCM is \( 2^2 . 3^2 .5^1 = 180 \)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

The HCF of 36 and 10 is just 2^1 = 2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

xplain plz

OpenStudy (aravindg):

didnt get u

OpenStudy (jamesj):

By definition the LCM(a,b) is a multiple of both numbers, and if it is multiple of a and b, then it must be the product of all the prime factors. That's what I did with that example: 36 = 2^2 . 3^2 . 5^0 10 = 2^1 . 3^0 . 5^1 hence LCM(36,10) = 2^(max of 2 and 1) . 3^(max of 2 and 0) . 5^(max of 1 and 0) = 2^2 . 3^2 . 5^1 = 4 . 9 . 5 = 180

OpenStudy (jamesj):

HCF is the opposite. HCF(36,10) = 2^(min of 2 and 1) . 3^(min of 2 and 0) . 5^(min of 1 and 0) = 2^1 . 3^0 . 5^0 = 2 . 1 . 1 = 2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

what do u mean by minimum and maximum of 2 and 1

OpenStudy (jamesj):

max(x,y) = largest of these two numbers. So max(2,1) = 2. min(x,y) = smallest of these two number. So min(2,1) = 1

OpenStudy (aravindg):

wel what do i do in cases such as find lcm of PI/4 AND PI ETC

OpenStudy (jamesj):

That's a very strange question. lcm and hcf normally only apply to integers.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

If we now allow rational multiples of pi, then I'd say that LCM(pi, pi/4) = pi.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

my teacher told me that lcm of pi/4 aqnd pi is pi

OpenStudy (aravindg):

hw u got it?xplain

OpenStudy (jamesj):

yes, there is a way to formalize this concept, but just use your intuition for that.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

tel me i need to be fast in getting lcm any way for that?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

If we're no longer in integers and a < b, then lcm(a,b) = b.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

really??

OpenStudy (jamesj):

I think it depends on context now. What are you using these LCMs for?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

forget what I just say about lcm(a,b) for the moment.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

like questions above

OpenStudy (jamesj):

for example, what is LCM(pi,17)? Well, if you're allowed to multiply by 17/pi, then LCM(pi,17) = 17. But that feels odd. If you want to know LCM(pi,17) for the purpose of simplifying some sort of fraction, then you might say that LCM(pi,17) = 17pi.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

So I come back and ask: why do you want to know the LCM(pi,pi/4)? As I say, it's not a standard concept to consider LCM for numbers that aren't integers (or some other special sorts of algebraic structures which needn't concern us here.)

OpenStudy (aravindg):

actually i am studying periodic function

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Give me the entire question/context.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

my teacher told me that that period of sin x+cos ax is given by the lcm of the periods of individual functions

OpenStudy (jamesj):

The period of sin x is 2pi, the period of cos ax is 2pi/a The sum of these functions is periodic if there exists a number T such that sin(x+T) + cos(ax + aT) = sin x + cos ax for all x.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

the minimum such number T will be the period. Well, let's experiment

OpenStudy (aravindg):

k lets stop that

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i hav some questions in physics

OpenStudy (jamesj):

if a = 1, then T = 2pi If a = 2, T = 2pi if a = 7, T = 2pi if a = 1/2, T = 4pi = 2 x 2pi if a = 1/7, T = 14pi = 7 x 2pi

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i i will post it separately

OpenStudy (jamesj):

ok. I have to got soon; I'll do my best

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